Betting to Isolate

[JT]

Had a very funny one tonight !!!

I raised an over the top bet to make sure that to limp betters didnt get to see the next card ( whom I saw as theats ) - and in the same time kept in some one in the game who was all in whom I didnt see was a threat !!

The all in won and the 2 that folded had to tell me how I should bet - so in a nut shell the 2 threats didnt chip up.

Am I wrong for pushing ???

I finished in front of the 2 would be wingers by the way

[Ondie J]

Not at all wrong for pushing. Good stuff

[mr_niceguy_1979]

They were probably upset about you betting into a dry side pot

[David]

How is that a dry side pot?!

[Bacon]

Unless this was a different hand to the one I saw.

All in went for about 1100, 3 people just called. No side pot.

Flop was 6 6 6

JT went all in for 3300 as first to act. Players folded.

JT shows 3 4. Mary turns over A9, and the ace holds up.

My understanding is that JT was betting into a dry side pot. One of the other players had AK, so would've won and knocked out Mary.

That is why the players were angry, because it gave someone a life in the tournament (not because they lost the hand).

[mr_niceguy_1979]

If that's the case, no wonder they were pissed. It's one thing betting into a dry side pot with a hand, but there's no point bluffing the dry side pot.

[bennymacca]

my opinion is yes, you were wrong for pushing, because it was a complete bluff.

see the link below for discussion on dry side pots

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=732&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=dry+side+pot

[Dug]

I believe it was wrong to push.

The whole point of tournaments is to eliminate players, if someone raises over the top it gives the short stack a 50/50 chance of winning. If there a two more live players the odds stack against the short stack, therefore giving you a better chance to finish higher in the tournament, as we want the short stacks out, and not given another chance to progress.

[Bacon]

The players weren't exactly pissed, they couldn't understand the bluff. I know Air would've just checked the hand down if there was no bet.

And if it was so push a threat out of the hand (and so they didn't get the chips), well that is a different story.

Same happened with my KK. A7 was all in pre-flop, me & another in. Board came out A7389 ... If I have had bet on the flop, then I would've pushed out TD Mark, who won the hand with J 10... The all-in A7 was less of a threat that Mark, and I would've preferred he got the chips, but I checked it down, thinking I didn't want to lose more money in case Mark had the Ace.. On that hand, either way I was losing, but it's where the chips ended up that mattered. But I didn't think my KK was the best hand, so I didn't bet.

[David]

I guess it was written poorly then, he said he raised an over the top bet, implies there's no sidepot.