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Uniform the NPL so same at all venues

Postby jadey100 » Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:21 pm

I have a few suggestions for the NPL

1. Uniform ure rules every venue has different rules. e.g how many draws. How many people get let back.

2. Get rid of the red hats. Originally you had card protectors for first place winners, much better prize.

3. Try and make an arrangement with every venue in SA in regard to the stamps. Each venue should be the same.

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Re: Uniform the NPL so same at all venues

Postby Goose » Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:38 am

HERE HERE

Ive had my say regarding the draws etc

Those hats do suck. Better card covers where promised last season but where are they.

The NPL should do something about the stamp system
Some venues are just ripping the punters off
Just look at the Lakes Resort venue detail stamp policy (what a rip off)
Another is Roulettes who wont even give you a stamp unless you spend so much. If ya dont drink forget about stamps
Some venues have got it right with $0 - $2.50 for each stamp
Eg scotch and coke $5.50 = 2 - 3 stamps.
Small coke $1.80 = 1 stamp
$9 - $10 meal and beer special = full card

I know which venues im supporting
SUPPORT VENUES THAT SUPPORT THE PUNTERS

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Re: Uniform the NPL so same at all venues

Postby JK » Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:35 pm

Probably important when assessing the stamp cost situation, to weigh up the cost by comparison with what the venue offers punters.

The Lakes for example is exxy compared to other places, but also has weekly and monthly prizes that are pretty tidy.

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Re: Uniform the NPL so same at all venues

Postby Garth Kay » Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:50 pm

In Response to the above statements:
1.) In regards to the rulings on draws we have set a limit on redraws depending on the amount of players playing in that tournament. In the first season we had numerous complaints about players being drawn back in when there was only 20 or so players left. The amount of bad beat tables, and 2nd break redraws are based upon the starting numbers for tournament. We do this to reflect on average chip stack sizes depending on starting runners, we also do no wish to upset those who have played all the way through the tournament only to have a player being bought back in the late stages of the tournament and just miss out on the points.
The rules at the moment are:
BAD BEAT TABLES:
o Less than 60 runners = 1 Bad Beat Table
o 60 to 80 runners = 2 Bad Beat Tables
o More than 80 runners = 3 Bad Beat Tables
RE DRAWS
o Number of redraws at first break is dependant on players:
Tournaments with less than 60 runners will do 3 draws.
Tournaments with more than 60 runners will do 5 draws.
• For tournaments with 60 or more runners a second draw will be conducted at the completion of the second break. Only players who have being eliminated from the tournament can be redrawn. There will be two draws for $2000 in chips. If there are 24 or less runners remaining a re draw is not to be conducted.

2.) Prize packs have being revised. We've discovered the visor to be a love/hate item. You either love it or hate it. We have decided to increase the value of prize packs in the coming seasons.
No statement was ever made to players in regards to card protectors, if any staff member has informed any player of that then they have miscommunicated. There will be an official announcement on prize packs made towards the end of the season.

3.) What you ask is impossible. Every venue looks for something different from our poker product. Every venue works to a different profit margin and also has different suppliers and marketing strategies. We have many venues and venue managers that work closely with us to develop the best system.
Pub Poker in SA is only 5 months old. We are in the infancy stages here, and so are the venues when it comes to offering the punters what they want. It will take some time before we work on the most ideal process that works for everybody in SA. At the moment all I can suggest is that if you have any complaints or wish to discuss any venue stamp procedures or anything at all that you contact me at garth@npl.com.au

Thanks for the feedback we always appreciate hearing from our players and we always take your points of view and ideas on board.
Garth Kay

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Re: Uniform the NPL so same at all venues

Postby David » Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:01 pm

Moved to "YOUR NPL" forum
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Re: Uniform the NPL so same at all venues

Postby LeetLeet » Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:50 pm

I like the idea of card protectors! wouldnt mind a similar system where either the tournament winner or top 3 get a different coloured card protector(similar to apl) so we have something to collect or differant coloured keyrings.

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Re: Uniform the NPL so same at all venues

Postby GT » Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:20 am

i am 100% against uniform rules. TDs should be encouraged to run the tourneys to suit their venues and players.

The amount of redraws and turbo tables.. why does it matter how many people are there.. if the TD feels that an extra turbo table should be run, then great.. if not.. then use the minimum.

I have never been to a venue in season 1, where an extra card or 2 was read out or an extra turbo table was put together and heard anyone complain.. however.. if people do.. then fine at that venue dont.

Ive noticed a decrease in people staying around.. thus.. less drinks are bought etc.. so surely its in NPLs / venues interest for TDs (if they so desire) to customize slightly how each place is run.

It is free after all..... so some slight variations shouldnt be causing grief.. if they do.. then the TD adjusts to the strict adherence.. but at the venues i played.. no one complained.. in fact it was the opposite

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Re: Uniform the NPL so same at all venues

Postby Darren B » Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:42 am

WOW!!

A commonsense post?
What is going on?

Is it April the 1st already?

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Re: Uniform the NPL so same at all venues

Postby Garth Kay » Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:00 am

Hi GT,
Thanks for your post. Just so you are aware we do have guidelines but I have always instructed that these guidelines are the bare minimum. TD's are free to use their discretion in deciding how many tables and re draws at any stage of the game, as long as it is within the parameters set by myself and NPL.
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Re: Uniform the NPL so same at all venues

Postby GT » Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:54 am

ok garth thanks for the reply.. thats good news.. i think some TDs are under the impression these guidelines are the only way...

plucka.. sorry mate.. :)


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