Did I play this wrong?

[eddy12325]

I was playing in the midnight mania tournament and their were about 20 people left and I am dealt [Jc][Js] in UTG, I raise to 700 which is 3 and a half times the big blind at the time, I get four callers UTG+1, the SB and the BB, the flop is [3d][4c][8d], the BB checks, the SB bets the pot at 2800 and I shove over the top to 14086, UTG+1 snap calls to put himself all-in and at risk, the SB folds, and the BB folds, UTG+1 rolls [8h][9h] and the turn is a [9d] and I can't hit any of my outs on the river which is a [2c].
What did I do wrong if anything, was I just unlucky or just on the wrong end of what I consider to be a bad call.

[maccatak11]

You were just unlucky man. Im doing exactly what you did 95% of the time unless i had a super-specific read on my opponent. and even then id still probably shove.

unlucky man. throw something, kick the dog and load up some rush omaha to soothe the tilt away...

[bennymacca]

if it makes you feel any better, you will win that 82% of the time.

dont forget though, that still means you will lose roughly 1 in 5 times

990 games 0.005 secs 198,000 games/sec

Board: 3d 4c 8d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 81.616% 81.62% 00.00% 808 0.00 { JcJs }
Hand 1: 18.384% 18.38% 00.00% 182 0.00 { 9h8h }

[AceLosesKing]

if it makes you feel any better, you will win that 82% of the time.

dont forget though, that still means you will lose roughly 1 in 5 times

990 games 0.005 secs 198,000 games/sec

Board: 3d 4c 8d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 81.616% 81.62% 00.00% 808 0.00 { JcJs }
Hand 1: 18.384% 18.38% 00.00% 182 0.00 { 9h8h }

Just on this, think about it this way.

18% of the times you win, you owe him some of the pot

[bennymacca]

Just on this, think about it this way.

18% of the times you win, you owe him some of the pot

not really dude.

that should read "every time you win, you should owe him 18% of the pot"

[AceLosesKing]

Just on this, think about it this way.

18% of the times you win, you owe him some of the pot

not really dude.

that should read "every time you win, you should owe him 18% of the pot"

Yeah, that's way clearer than what I was saying.

[Papa Bear]

You could not have done anything different. Guy had top pair, fair enough, but with a 9 kicker ? What the? Unfortunately you were playing with the unluckiest hand in poker....Pocket Jacks....Whenever you're ready Caroline....jump in...Familiar territory here...

[bennymacca]

You could not have done anything different. Guy had top pair, fair enough, but with a 9 kicker ? What the?

unfortunately eddy hasn't given us the stack size of the opponent. if his pot bet put more than about 30% of his stack in the pot, then he is correct to call the rest off most of the time.


if it makes you feel better, final table of a 90 man SNG last night, effective stacks 14bb, i decided to limp aces from the cutoff (i basically never do this, and now i know why ) flop comes 752, dude pots it, i jam, he snaps off with 74o and of course hits the 7 on the turn.

[maccatak11]

There are 4 ways to play pocket Jacks. All of which are wrong.

[Papa Bear]

unfortunately eddy hasn't given us the stack size of the opponent. if his pot bet put more than about 30% of his stack in the pot, then he is correct to call the rest off most of the time.

True, but would you call 30% of your stack pre flop with mid range suited connectors ? Seriously over rated. See your point, once he has committed this much and he's hit top pair, well...

There are 4 ways to play pocket Jacks. All of which are wrong.

Hmmm
Limp pre flop then slow play = WRONG
Limp pre flop then aggressive = WRONG
Push pre flop then aggressive = WRONG
Push pre flop then slow play = WRONG
Shut your eyes, Fold/Run away screaming is the obvious answer then...yeah, I like it..