railing the SoO

[Sinitster]

Congrats to those who will be representing their sides in the SoO ..

[JMACK007]

There was no standard open from Des late in that tourney. Against a solid raise from Des (who I saw playing really tight towards the end), might not be that bad a lay down. Depends on if it was for all or most of his chips or not......

If it was for only half his chips, then yeah, terrible fold....

[maccatak11]

if it was for all of his chips, then still terrible fold. only 1 hand in the deck has you crushed, and i'd LOVE to race everything else.

[JMACK007]

There's a lot more to running deep in tourney's than simple hand rankings and Mathematics guys, feel and table reads have a hell alot to do with it.....

[AceLosesKing]

There was no standard open from Des late in that tourney. Against a solid raise from Des (who I saw playing really tight towards the end), might not be that bad a lay down. Depends on if it was for all or most of his chips or not......

If it was for only half his chips, then yeah, terrible fold....

Wait, what.

So you'll put in half your stack with Kings, but not your entire stack?

Do you fold the flop/on any part of the board? If the answer is no, then put in your entire stack.

[JMACK007]

No Aaron, was more referring to what the situation could have been. If Des raised to something equal to or below half of Bruce's stack, then he should shove over the top, but if Des's raise is big enough to basically cover Bruce when he had been playing SO tight, he has to at least put him on the A, if not AA, and has a choice to either trust his gut and get out of there, or risk the A spiking, AA dominating, or a running straight or flush that ends his tourney. As I basically said above, I will never tell someone that they were wrong for trusting their instinct and read......

[AceLosesKing]

Ok.

If Bruce actually did have Kings and he folded them pre to a standard open that is downright horrible.

[JMACK007]

Yeah, probably, just saying there might be more to it than just the figures show....

(but maybe I'm just biased because playing KK caused me to bubble a GF ticket last season!!)

[bennymacca]

No Aaron, was more referring to what the situation could have been. If Des raised to something equal to or below half of Bruce's stack, then he should shove over the top, but if Des's raise is big enough to basically cover Bruce when he had been playing SO tight, he has to at least put him on the A, if not AA, and has a choice to either trust his gut and get out of there, or risk the A spiking, AA dominating, or a running straight or flush that ends his tourney. As I basically said above, I will never tell someone that they were wrong for trusting their instinct and read......

Risk the A spiking? that is ridiculous. you are a 70% favourite against all Ax hands except aces, and you dont want to put your money in?

sorry, but that is just plain wrong. there is never a time where you can fold kings in that type of situation.

[Origami]

bruce, what if i wagered you $100, where you had a 70% chance of winning.

would you take it as a once off?

what if i told you that we would do it 100 times. would you accept this bet?

i also consider position and the need to risk my tournament life playing KK a Ace had hit ...des a good player must be good has chip lead might be bluffing
might be bulling cus i fold alot... other player risked his play on pkt 7,7 and lost.


no cuz i could lose 30 times before i win any thing
if you give me 1000 chances 299 of them I'd lose.

didnt you say there are 34,000,000 hand combos possible in a deal of texas holdem poker.


the number of times Ive lost to two outters/ runner runners in favorable tournament position point or dollars may have scared me for ever.
I can play any two cards with the best of them..

why just the other day played AA utg four callers hits A on flop , J hits on turn to give me a fullhouse A's over J's .. caller match bet. river card hits a J Im put all in ...he wins with quads J...

yeh bad luck again..

i hear you benny the cunt , might hope for a 2 to hit sometime soon....