ACES

[JMACK007]

Harps, in poker the Ace can be a 1 or 14, but always refered to as an ace. e.g. an ace high straight, straight Ace to 5, or "Ace" as the highest card, whether that be high card, highest pair, highest trips, or highest quads.....

And I know why you asked the question.....at least you got a result!

[Sinitster]

I always fear the 1 of any suit .... oh Ace i mean ...

Even moreso them be 2 of them there ...

Jam or limp ?


lol

I seem to always make the wrong decision , wether i limp or jam ...


Hate them ! !

[Brett Kay]

Ummm...maybe I've been playing the wrong game, but i am sure you can only double down if you have 9, 10 or 11 with your first 2 cards??!

Therefore, it is only the double down on 11 that renders any Ace catch a 1.....

In your example, you have DECLARED the Ace a 1....you still had the choice between 1 or 11......And for the record, why would you double down when you already have 20??

In blackjack you can double down on 9,10 or 11 only. Drawing one card only. if you get the ace when you double down on ten, you make 21, but still have to wait for the dealer to get his cards if he has a ten or ace showing.

In pontoon, you can double down at anytime. there are bonus payouts on 6,7,8 and your 21's get paid instantly no waiting on the dealer to busto you. In pontoon if you double down on a soft 15, it is turned into a 5 and you still receive one card only.

[Garth Kay]

Brett is correct.

PONTOON is the bomb!! LOL. Except all the Tens a removed from the shoe so it screws with the count if you get confused.

I once watched brett double down on a 17 with the dealer showing paint and he landed the four.

[Brett Kay]

Brett is correct.

PONTOON is the bomb!! LOL. Except all the Tens a removed from the shoe so it screws with the count if you get confused.

I once watched brett double down on a 17 with the dealer showing paint and he landed the four.

Other degen moments from Brett's Pontoon career.

Standing on 6 and winning.

Hitting on 19 and spiking the 2.

Standing on 5 and losing - i did deserve that one.

Standing with $50 on the table with 20, and seeing the dealer draw a 6 card 21.

Standing with $100 on the table with 19 and seeing the dealer draw a 7 card 21.

Standing with $100 on the table with 19 and seeing the dealer bust after 6 cards.

Putting down $200 on the table and seeing those two beautiful Ace and King of spades land to give me blackjack.

I shouldn't gamble

[JMACK007]

In blackjack, the confusion is caused by the ace being a dual card, As it is either 1, or 11, However in a lot of betting options, the ace is turned into a 1, such as doubling down. Or is restricted in the number of cards it can take, e.g. splitting aces can only take one card only. So whilst being a powerful card, can actually be restrictive for when players are playing it.

This is the statement I referred to as incorrect.....

[maccatak11]

i still dont get why that is incorrect jmack. and plus you dont ever declare the ace as anything, it just is. if you are higher than ten, then the ace must be a one, if less then it is either, you never have to choose.

[JMACK007]

sigh...I'm actually sorry I said anything now...!

Brett's statement that the Ace is automatically turned into a 1 when you double down is incorrect, as I said earlier, if you double down on 10 and draw and Ace, you score 21, not 11...................

Please tell me that's all the time I need to devote to this thread!!

[bennymacca]

im with jmack here. an ace is always 11 when you double down, never 1

wtf are you guys on about?

[Brett Kay]

If you have ace, 9, soft 20, if your double down the ace is called 1. Effectively creating a ten count.

Ace, 8 is soft 19, same deal, double down, it is only ever going to be 9, never 19 if you hit the 2.

So if the ace is one of your two initial cards, and you double down, then it is only counted as a 1. Both in pontoon and Blackjack.

Whatever card you pick up next is played as is if it doesn't bust you.