This isn't a bad beat, I don't care.

[AceLosesKing]

Cos I'm pissed.

Came back from the final break at the Kingsford tonight (64 runners) with 1,500. Managed to double up a few times, blah blah I reach the final table with 37,000. There are 5 players with 7,000 or less.

I'm dealt Kh Qh. I call the 4,000 blind.

Flop: 7h, Qc, 3s. I bet 10,000. Chip leader (60k or more) calls me.

Turn: Ah. I check. He asks me how much I have left, 23,000, then raises me all in. After deliberating for a while, I call.

He turns over Ac 6h.

River: Doesn't help.

Yeah, I know to come back from 1,500 and make the final table is pretty good (ie: shut the hell up Aaron, what are you complaining about?), but when you're sitting 6th in the region, every point finish counts - especially ones at the Kingsford (biggest game in B&G).

I could've folded out for 3rd too

Bah.

Edit: Wow, I totally forget to add where I finished. 7th.

[Brett Kay]

Everything was fine except calling.

Got to remember a lot of players think an ace is golden, it is hard to fold second pair, but when you are going up against a big stack, think about payouts/position/points e.t.c

Main thing is to avoid getting pot comitted.

Whereabouts were you on the table e.g. UTG? Was he the only other big stack out there? Got to factor them into any decision also.

IT may be a turbo tournament, but you want to get your money in the best spots. Sometimes you may even be behind to go for the win.

Good Luck
Brett

[AceLosesKing]

Everything was fine except calling.

I know this guy and I didn't put him on the Ace (he drew the 3, by the way). Obviously my reading skills need work.

Whereabouts were you on the table e.g. UTG?

I drew the 8. Big blind was 2 hands away from me. The guy next to me had 1g (7), Paul had 8g (6), Renee about 6 (Ace)...

Was he the only other big stack out there?

No. Another guy had about 50k (2), Gordy had around 20k (9). I was definitely 3rd, chip leader wise. I absolutely could've folded out for top 4, possibly 3rd depending on the cards.

IT may be a turbo tournament, but you want to get your money in the best spots. Sometimes you may even be behind to go for the win.

Good Luck
Brett

I've had a lot of time to think about it and in my opinion, it was just bad luck. I don't think I made the wrong call. I thought I had the winning hand... I didn't. Talking to a few players afterwards they said they would've done the same thing.

The flush draw did help in my call, though. Damn hearts!

I've just checked the regional leaderboard (nice work uploading Matty) and with tonight I moved from 6th to 2nd, so I guess I can't really complain.

[Brett Kay]

Raise preflop and push the flop.

Position on the shorter stacks and his A 6 looks a lot smaller to the bet on the flop.

Then when the turn comes, you took your edge and missed. But still had outs.

If he wanted to reraise you all in preflop. Then its a flip.

Brett

[AceLosesKing]

Raise preflop and push the flop

I don't raise preflop on two picture cards. Hardly.

But yes, that strategy probably would've worked. A higher bet than 10k was needed too, he had something like 60k, of course he's gonna call...

[Brett Kay]

Raise preflop and push the flop

I don't raise preflop on two picture cards. Hardly.

But yes, that strategy probably would've worked. A higher bet than 10k was needed too, he had something like 60k, of course he's gonna call...

How come? Not going into the odds or anything like that. But if your limping in with suited connectors and painted.

What do you raise with?

I know freeroll tournaments have a different strategy than normal. But still, only so many hands a person can limp with.

[AceLosesKing]

How come? Not going into the odds or anything like that. But if your limping in with suited connectors and painted.

Because in these "pub" games, everyone calls. And if I don't hit, I'm stuffed. I'll call most raises, though. AK suited I might, and that's a big might. Of course, if its heads up in the hand and someone has a low chip stack, or another situation where the odds are in my favour, I'll raise, but if the night's just started I'll call that 200 with KQ.

What do you raise with?

Pockets. Depending on position/stack/table situation, they could be as low as 2s.

[Brett Kay]

Interesting.

My range for raising is alot harsher. My calling range is very open.

Early Pos Raise: AA-JJ.
Limping in with : 10 10 - 2 2, Suited connectors, Connectors, One gaps.

Middle Pos Raise: AA-88, AK-A10. Suited connectors.
Limping in with: Pockets, Connectors, one gaps, weak aces.

Late Pos: Raise: AA-66, AK-A10, Suited Aces, Suited Connectors.
Limping In with pockets, Connectors One and two Gaps, Other aces.

Most times, evaluating with early raises, and also how many players in the pot.

Better post flop player than i am pre flop. Always trying to avoid putting my chips in with 5 cards to come also.

[AceLosesKing]

Interesting.

My range for raising is alot harsher. My calling range is very open.

Early Pos Raise: AA-JJ.
Limping in with : 10 10 - 2 2, Suited connectors, Connectors, One gaps.

Middle Pos Raise: AA-88, AK-A10. Suited connectors.
Limping in with: Pockets, Connectors, one gaps, weak aces.

Late Pos: Raise: AA-66, AK-A10, Suited Aces, Suited Connectors.
Limping In with pockets, Connectors One and two Gaps, Other aces.

Most times, evaluating with early raises, and also how many players in the pot.

Better post flop player than i am pre flop. Always trying to avoid putting my chips in with 5 cards to come also.

Interesting. Probably a strategy I should employ, but my game has been working for me so far.

The way I see it is, if someone else has KQ, hell even K 9 suited, they're going to raise. You see it a lot in these games. Say I have two picture cards, I'll call. And they'll go into the flop thinking they're ahead. Then I'll evaluate the hand from there.

Gotta say I love suited connectors.

[Brett Kay]

If your strategy is working keep at it.

Never hurts to change tactics once in a while. I used to fire way too many bluffs at pots. Have slowly stopped that.

But now, probably a little timid when i do get into big pots.

As to players going in with marginal hands. Nothing you can do about that.

Tournaments are all about exploiting your opponents mistakes. The more mistakes they make, the easier it is to get chips. However tournaments with small start stacks. Makes it very unforgiving if they make the mistake but get lucky.

Most of the times i just smile. Knowing that they are willing to chase a flush draw to the river.