Flop trips - Now what?

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Flop trips - Now what?

Postby trishan » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:11 pm

Only played 13 hands against villain.

Seat 1: ItsP0kerTime ($17.05 in chips)
Seat 2: trishan09 ($10.25 in chips)
Seat 3: Allande26 ($11.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Favourite86s ($10 in chips)
ItsP0kerTime: posts small blind $0.05
trishan09: posts big blind $0.10
DineiMadafak: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to trishan09 [5c Js]
Allande26: calls $0.10
Favourite86s: folds
ItsP0kerTime: calls $0.05
trishan09: checks
*** FLOP *** [5h 5d 4c]
ItsP0kerTime: bets $0.20
trishan09: calls $0.20
Allande26: folds
*** TURN *** [5h 5d 4c] [Ks]
ItsP0kerTime: bets $0.40
trishan09: raises $0.80 to $1.20
ItsP0kerTime: raises $1.60 to $2.80

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Re: Flop trips - Now what?

Postby Scotty » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:13 pm

Flat it, he leads out on the river, and you get paid.

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Re: Flop trips - Now what?

Postby trishan » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:15 pm

I flatted.

PokerStars Game #35545749191: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2009/11/19 12:54:09 AEST [2009/11/18 20:54:09 ET]
Table 'Mathilde II' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: ItsP0kerTime ($17.05 in chips)
Seat 2: trishan09 ($10.25 in chips)
Seat 3: Allande26 ($11.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Favourite86s ($10 in chips)
ItsP0kerTime: posts small blind $0.05
trishan09: posts big blind $0.10
DineiMadafak: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to trishan09 [5c Js]
Allande26: calls $0.10
Favourite86s: folds
ItsP0kerTime: calls $0.05
trishan09: checks
*** FLOP *** [5h 5d 4c]
ItsP0kerTime: bets $0.20
trishan09: calls $0.20
Allande26: folds
*** TURN *** [5h 5d 4c] [Ks]
ItsP0kerTime: bets $0.40
trishan09: raises $0.80 to $1.20
ItsP0kerTime: raises $1.60 to $2.80
trishan09: calls $1.60
*** RIVER *** [5h 5d 4c Ks] [Qh]
ItsP0kerTime: bets $2.50

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Re: Flop trips - Now what?

Postby Garth Kay » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:17 pm

Reads or stats on villain?

I am guessing that villain has flopped trip/set as well. So several hands have you beat at this stage; the most likely to be A5 or 45 with a SB call. 56 is also in the likely range.

I am in two minds (simply because it is micro stakes) essentially pump it and get it all in and gamble on my read. Or flat to re evaluate on the river. I don't think Villain is firing on the river OOP with air or missed draws. I think they have the goods here and will flat river.

Flat and get to showdown as cheap as possible. My final decision!
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Re: Flop trips - Now what?

Postby maccatak11 » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:18 pm

you only really are behind to 44 and bigger 5's. If you are worried about one of these hands then flat, otherwise raise it up. His line could include any K and any medium pair. but flat it i think. you cant ever fold here readless.



EDIT: what garth said.
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Re: Flop trips - Now what?

Postby Garth Kay » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:18 pm

Value bets the river.

You have half your stack invested, in a 50NL or 100NL game I actually flat this river.

I am not gaining any value by shoving here as 80% of the time only a better hands call, and worst hands fold out.
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Re: Flop trips - Now what?

Postby trishan » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:20 pm

Garth Kay wrote:Reads or stats on villain?

I am guessing that villain has flopped trip/set as well. So several hands have you beat at this stage; the most likely to be A5 or 45 with a SB call. 56 is also in the likely range.

I am in two minds (simply because it is micro stakes) essentially pump it and get it all in and gamble on my read. Or flat to re evaluate on the river. I don't think Villain is firing on the river OOP with air or missed draws. I think they have the goods here and will flat river.

Flat and get to showdown as cheap as possible. My final decision!


Villain 31/8/0 over 13 hands so no reads...
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Re: Flop trips - Now what?

Postby Garth Kay » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:22 pm

Yeah definitely flat the river.

Your chopping with worse 5 hands and losing to better 5 hands.

I cannot see villain leading like this on streets with a straight draw or even strong King.

He either has flopped the boat, or turned it. Best case scenario is he is overplaying AA, chances of this are slim to none.

End verdict is you are either losing this pot on the river or chopping.
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Re: Flop trips - Now what?

Postby Scotty » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:26 pm

Garth Kay wrote:I cannot see villain leading like this on streets with a straight draw or even strong King.


Even 4 handed? I can see KQ/KJ/K10 opening this flop SH

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Re: Flop trips - Now what?

Postby trishan » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:27 pm

I flatted the river and he showed:

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