5.50 10k guar on Stars, 2556 runners

[Bacon]

joined this tourney with macca, krunch and gundog 2 hours ago. Now i'm sitting 37/530, cash from 378th.

Got double the average stack.

Come rail if ya round. bacon8100

[Tommo]

good luk bacon, i started a $1 tourney with 4500 runners stupidly now i gotta play it oh well

[Bacon]

Well i cashed. Was 5th before the bubble burst, now 8th.

[Bacon]

Out in 189th. I think I was going broke here, no matter what.

The Chip Leader (Pun) had been f*cking about with raises and calling with like 79, 34s etc, so I thought I'd see a flop.

Even if I'd flatted the flop, I was pushing on the turn. Any thoughts??


PokerStars Game #27119421486: Tournament #155233423, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (600/1200) - 2009/04/15 12:26:56 ET
Table '155233423 135' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: ed9amos (40119 in chips)
Seat 2: mcbengt (22997 in chips)
Seat 3: thecnuts (43569 in chips)
Seat 4: gsukhy (17129 in chips)
Seat 5: viperitti (16645 in chips)
Seat 6: the punerer (194747 in chips)
Seat 7: dhouwer17 (33159 in chips)
Seat 8: Bacon8100 (47131 in chips)
Seat 9: ZMan5406 (23792 in chips)
ed9amos: posts the ante 125
mcbengt: posts the ante 125
thecnuts: posts the ante 125
gsukhy: posts the ante 125
viperitti: posts the ante 125
the punerer: posts the ante 125
dhouwer17: posts the ante 125
Bacon8100: posts the ante 125
ZMan5406: posts the ante 125
thecnuts: posts small blind 600
gsukhy: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bacon8100 [Ad 9c]
viperitti: folds
the punerer: raises 2244 to 3444
dhouwer17: folds
Bacon8100: calls 3444
ZMan5406: folds
ed9amos: folds
mcbengt: folds
thecnuts: folds
gsukhy: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qd 8h Ac]
the punerer: bets 3600
Bacon8100: raises 39962 to 43562 and is all-in
the punerer: calls 39962
*** TURN *** [Qd 8h Ac] [9s]
*** RIVER *** [Qd 8h Ac 9s] [Ks]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
the punerer: shows [Qs As] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
Bacon8100: shows [Ad 9c] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
the punerer collected 96937 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 96937 | Rake 0
Board [Qd 8h Ac 9s Ks]
Seat 1: ed9amos folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: mcbengt (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: thecnuts (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: gsukhy (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: viperitti folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: the punerer showed [Qs As] and won (96937) with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 7: dhouwer17 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Bacon8100 showed [Ad 9c] and lost with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 9: ZMan5406 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[bennymacca]

long tl;dr im convo about this hand

Bacon says (2:05 AM):
Do you think I could get away from that?
Ben says (2:06 AM):
maybe you shouldn't have shoved on teh flop. but on the turn, you are prolly going broke most of th etime. but i wouldn't have jammed the flop.

maybe if you made a standard raise, and he shoved, you could have put him on a better hand.
Bacon says (2:07 AM):
I think, normally, I see what you are saying, but my read on the guy was he was trying to push people around. I'd seen it a few times already.

Ben says (2:07 AM):
fair enough, reads are def important
Bacon says (2:08 AM):
I think, if I had've flat/3xraise the flop, I would've been jamming the turn. Didn't see him with JT either. I thought he'd hit his Q though. Just not the A as well.
Ben says (2:08 AM):
here is a question for you. would he have called you down with anything you beat?
Bacon says (2:10 AM):
good question.. I don't think I saw enough people raising his bets to have gauged that enough.


Bacon says (2:11 AM):
What you are asking is, what did I think he'd call me jam with?
that wasn't AQ
Ben says (2:11 AM):
yeah, what do you beat that he calling your shove with? i.e is A7 going to call u down?
Ben says (2:12 AM):
this is on the flop i am talking
Bacon says (2:12 AM):
I hadn't really considered that there.
I think I didn't want him to call.
Ben says (2:13 AM):
so you have really turned your hand into a bluff by betting raising all in.

i think your hand is good, but not good enough to get it all in with. this is why i would have just called on teh flop

on the turn, you are prolly going broke either way, thats just bl
Ben says (2:14 AM):
i think lately i try to tell myself, that whenever i raise, what is he possibly going to call with that i beat.
Bacon says (2:14 AM):
yeah, good point. I really only thought "he's only got the Q, I'm good here.. he won't call". Not about "If he's got Q and what, is he likely to call?"
Bacon says (2:15 AM):
I still think the turn would've caused so raising, and re-raising, but fair point, to evaluate the flop, cos that's where I could've possibly got away from it
Ben says (2:15 AM):
yeah, if he has a queen, and u go all in, he folds. if you flat call, and he has something like KQ then he might bet again, and then u get more value out of hands u beat