Player representative council

[Bacon]

To be fair, some people might not post on the forum because there is a core group of voices heard on here. While I feel we are open to new voices, it's continually the same people.

I would be worried that a Player council would become the same thing. There would be 5/6 NPL 'stars' inducted onto the committee, who listen to players, but still only portray their own opinion to the committee.

[Caleb]

I would also ask that you do contemplate the most favourable outcome for selection of council members, not opinionated, arrogant, loud mouths but rather players of the likes of the Murrin Boys who are responsible and level headed and have no intention of furthering any subconcious alpha male attributes.

On this basis I agree that a player representative council would be a good idea. The idea could be fantastic and reap massive rewards for all involved.

However, and this is where my natural pessimistic tendancies come in....

The council would also act as a tribunal, in conjunction with the PM, on all player matters, they would create a player code of conduct and any player found in breach of this conduct would face the tribunal and disciplinary action.

Would that mean that the council would have the power to implement punishments for breaches of the player code? Isn't that our job? I don't know of any other games/sports/leagues where someone can be reprimanded by a combination of the administrators and players.

(Thats assuming I'm reading the above passage correctly)

The council would also be the eyes and ears of all players, and NPL players would speak to council members on all NPL related issues that they feel they could not talk to with TD's.

I don't know why certain players feel this way, but I certainly acknowledge that there are players that cannot relate their concerns to a TD. I agree that having someone else available, not an NPL contractor, to talk to would be helpful. But what would stop these players from viewing a council member the same way?

A council member is not a contractor, but would be seen by many as an "affiliated" member of NPL, and would possibly be seen in the same light as a contractor when it comes to broaching certain subjects.

As such, I would prefer to have a contractor as the main port of call for issues for the players. Once you start involving player representatives things would just become unnecessarily complicated in my opinion.

I voted No, but the only concerns I have are the ones outlined above. Apart from that, I think it's a very good idea.

People are told time and time again about what to do when there is an incident at a game, but we still either get posts or talk among players along the lines of:

Person X: At Venue last night there was this incident (blah blah blah), I can’t believe this is allowed to go on.
Person Y: Did anyone tell the TD?
X: Um…no
Y: *facepalm*

EXACT TD reaction when this occurs as well. We aren't all seeing. Help us out as players to create a more enjoyable experience for all involved.

[Origami]

as a regular player of NPL I vote with my Feet and Wallet..

the communication with NPL Mangement currently is free and open, the forum abe it a limited audience is a good resource for opinion and ideas , To get to the regular punters this idea would be another arrow in the NPL armory ...for me the status quo....

[Garth Kay]

Would that mean that the council would have the power to implement punishments for breaches of the player code? Isn't that our job? I don't know of any other games/sports/leagues where someone can be reprimanded by a combination of the administrators and players.

(Thats assuming I'm reading the above passage correctly)

It is the job to implement punishments or disciplinary action at the tournament level of the TD's. In terms of continued breaches, or unethical behavior this would be relegated to the tribunal, basically cases where a player is nominated by a TD for indefinite suspension.

I don't know of any other games/sports/leagues where someone can be reprimanded by a combination of the administrators and players.

You have to be kidding? What sports do you play? Baseball, gridiron, Football, all sports I have played, and all have a tribunal formed by senior players and administration and when a player is reported by a referee or umpire they face the tribunal.

Lastly, this is a player representative council, the main priority of the members of this council is to voice opinions and issues as raised by players.

I have my ideas on who would form this council and my reasons behind this. I'm not trying to sell this, I'm asking for input and players feelings on this matter, but I am willing to listen to all feedback on this matter and alter my opinion on the roles and responsibilities or the need thereof.

[AceLosesKing]

I have some thoughts about this but like Matty, have refrained from posting my views until I can think on it properly for a while and come to a proper conclusion. So I'll likely add my views tomorrow.

[maccatak11]

<shrugs>

[muzzington]

macca for prez

[maccatak11]

I was originally in favour of this, but after reading all of the points, i might change my vote to no.

I personally like the idea (paul's i think) of simply marketing this forum to a wider audience and trying to get a wider variety of people to contribute here (where the hell is the link to the forum from the main NPL site???)

In that way, we will not just hear the voices of a select few that are elected(?) to the representative council, but a wider view of many players opinions.

You mentioned that the representative council would act as another port of call for players with issues/complaints about other players or TD's. I think the system in this regard is fine already.

If i have a problem, i chat to my TD, if im not satisfied i chat to my regional director and if im not satisfied ill email garth. This system aint broke, so why fix it?

Whilst senior players could be consulted regrading the formation of an NPL code of conduct, i think it should be TD's and management who should enact this code. It would be good for players to have a voice, but i believe we already have a voice via this forum.

And it has been proven already that ideas/issues/problems raised on this forum are listened to and have been dealt with.

Its a good idea in theory, but im not convinced we actually need a players council. It what way's would it significantly improve on the systems already in place now, without making it extra complicated??

[muzzington]

Agreed, the forum is a great tool to communicate to the NPL thoughts, ideas and troubles, and it's not just the multi-game players.

[Bacon]

Do you think that we are biased towards how much we think the forum contributes though?