FTT Attendance

[Bacon]

i still don't see how the timing of a VENUE final, which every venue would hold in week 10, has any bearing on the timing of the STATE final????

[Bob B]

i still don't see how the timing of a VENUE final, which every venue would hold in week 10, has any bearing on the timing of the STATE final????

Well ignorance can only take you so far in life Bacon. So just listen to the master and take it for granted I'm right and your .......... well, you're not. Just a bit of humour M8.

I don't know if you seen a suggestion I made in another post it wasn't too long but I meant it to sound something like the following.

Imagine "IF" the FTT events in the "Metro Regions" had their $5,000 broken into say 5 x $1,000 to win events like the "Country Regions".

So, in the last week, that being either the 5th or 10th week 5 selected venues from each of the 5 metro regions would hold a $1,000 to win tourney on one of the 5 week nights.

Personally I prefer the 10 week deal and bigger money but that's me. Sometimes little fish are sweeter so maybe the 5 week thing is good for everyone.

Anyway, this would or could create a fabulous tourney trail of a $1,000 per night in each "Metro Region" PLUS, the "Country Regions" would also be open to all comers and played on the Saturday and Sunday.

At the end of each season a different venue will hold the event in each region. So as to share the rewards that should come from the additional playing group that will be chasing the $1,000 to win.

Obviously there may be reasons "for and against" the idea and I'm sure you and others will pick it to pieces. But it is an IDEA, SOMETHING to look at and maybe, just maybe, it can create a greater interest than the last FTT turn out in both city and country and cut out the whinging.

FTT's at the moment are 3 for metro 1 for country. Why not make it 1 for any one of the venues. That way the Punter with 7 or more FTT"s can play them all and the punter with less will be more selective as to where they want to play.

What are some of the Plus and Minuses

A minus might be in the setting up and running of such an event each night over a 7 day period. Staff, venue size, tables, chairs etc, etc.

Plus I'm sure the guys at NPL are capable of doing the impossible.

Another minus could be how do we know if the numbers are going to be high or low? If too high, do we use a reserve system? If too low, have we over invested.

Plus No, it doesn't matter if it's been pre-budgetted. I'm sure we have a number of punters who will turn up chasing the $$$$'s at each venue. Plus they are seeing what other venues are like and may continue playing there after the Ca$h trail goes back to normal.

the plus is that it should create a bigger interest than the "PG $1,000" as it's over the whole week at 5 to 7 different venues, and that can't be too bad for business could it??????

Like I said before I'm sure you guys will have your own ideas but that's what a "MIND POOL" is all about. If it's only one person then it's an idea. If it's two people then they can discuss the idea. And if it's more than two people then they thrash it it out with all the do's & don'ts, pros & cons etc, etc, and the idea becomes either a reality or just a bad idea.

What do you think Garth and Co, is it a good or bad idea?????

[Scotty]

FTT's at the moment are 3 for metro 1 for country. Why not make it 1 for any one of the venues. That way the Punter with 7 or more FTT"s can play them all and the punter with less will be more selective as to where they want to play.

I assume you also want to change the qualification process as well, then.

[bennymacca]

bob, are you even reading this thread?

you are arguing with bacon and essentially insulting him when he is not even talking about the venue final crap

noone is having a go at sunbury's idea or saying it is crap, see elsewhere for discussion on that

learn to read bob

[Bob B]

FTT's at the moment are 3 for metro 1 for country. Why not make it 1 for any one of the venues. That way the Punter with 7 or more FTT"s can play them all and the punter with less will be more selective as to where they want to play.

I assume you also want to change the qualification process as well, then.

Well Scotty once again I'm so glad you have read the whole thing (my assumption not yours) and have only found one section that you are querying. I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing so I'll try and answer you as best I can.

Firstly, let me say that there is no "WANT" in my suggestion Scotty as it's just an IDEA to be bandied around on the Forum and maybe NPL could use it sometime in the future with a bit of fine tuning who knows.

I suppose I could have just sent it via a PM or Email to NPL and you would be non the wiser. But I thought it was a reasonable idea that we could maybe talk about and people such as yourself could offer a positive to the topic.

What I do know is that if we and or NPL just sit our hands and do nothing, say nothing, then you/we have offered NPL nothing. Please don't try and make this a Bob B must do thing because it's not and was never meant to be anything other than a suggestion.

So, rather than ask me if I want to change the qualifications process, be constructive and offer a suggetion yourself. I could be wrong but I thought the qualifications process was token related, wasn't it? I stand corrected if it isn't.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Forum is a great melting pot for ideas and suggestions that may be of use to the NPL or Forum users such as myself on a number of topics.

Take myself for instance. Through the Forum I've been shown sites for information that I never knew existed. I've met and spoken to people from all various venues and other states that I never would have met personally in real life even people such as yourself. And yes I do like to have a friendly debate from time to time especially with my old sparing partner Bacon.

It would be a very sad world we live in if we weren't able to voice an opinion or offer some ideas for change. Hell it would be like living in a communist state wouldn't it? Take care Scotty lifes too short.

P.S. Sorry for the legthy reply. I find it difficult to just answer some posts with just a YES or NO answer and feel it would be rude to do so.

[David]

So much easier being rude with paragraph after paragraph


Usually someone offers a suggestion because they want it, at least that's what I would have thought?

If you didn't want something, why would you offer it as a suggestion?

[Bob B]

bob, are you even reading this thread?
benny the cunt the thread started out as a FTT topic and I belive I have covered that quite clearly.
you are arguing with bacon and essentially insulting him when he is not even talking about the venue final crap
Get a grip benny the cunt. If I had said it to you then you would have a case. But I didn't coz we don't have that sort of friendship and sense of humour that Bacon and I share.
noone is having a go at sunbury's idea or saying it is crap, see elsewhere for discussion on that
The Sunbury thing is done and dusted and it's a new topic re; FTT again benny the cunt, LOL.
learn to read bob
Well I can read benny the cunt, and I assume from this and other posts refering to me is that you don't really like me that much! Am I reading you right benny the cunt?

Unfortunately, for yourself and others you are not privvy to PM's that I have had with Bacon nor are you aware of our friendship and how we spur each other on both in real life and on the forum since we joined NPL in SA.

You in turn are offering nothing but an arguement towards me and your quite welcome to do so. For some reason I actually like you. I don't like your approach but I do like you.

It's been a bit of fun but obviously some forumers like yourself assume we are serious so I guess it's time to go back to the PMing again so I/we don't give you guys the wrong impression.

[Bob B]

So much easier being rude with paragraph after paragraph
Hi there David. Please don't confuse rudeness with facts M8. To whom are you refering I was rude too and what paragraphs?

Usually someone offers a suggestion because they want it, at least that's what I would have thought?
Well you could be right and wrong David. You see I come from an industry where we offered numerous ideas. Some were implimented and some weren't. As professional sales and marketting group we would get together every Monday morning and throw some ideas around for new promotional ideas to keep ahead of the market.

If you didn't want something, why would you offer it as a suggestion?
I guess it's hard to drop old habits M8 but it's nice to see an idea that you may have played a part in come to fruition.

[bennymacca]

I know I seem to have a lot of ideas but here is another one.
Make the season just 9 weeks. The 10th week is a venue final.

Congratulations Sunbury2 for pointing out the most obvious solution to a problem that we have had since day one.

One would think it would be so easy to have preplaned the whole year showing where and when the finals will be played for each season.

So, why haven't NPL taken this idea that appears to be a simple solution to us knowing the time, date and where each the finals will be held???????

I can't wait to see the reply from NPL management.

these are from page 2 bob

you are quite clearly arguing two different points bob - sunbury is talking about changing hte structure of NPL, you are talking about the timing of the finals


when we try to point this out to you, all you do is be rude. im sorry if you dont feel that you are being rude, or "like my approach" but if i think something is rude, i will tell someone.

i am man enough to admit mistakes, or take criticism without it degenerating into insults or sarcasm, and i am sure you are as well bob. but sometimes your posts come across as rude and sarcastic, even when you probably don't mean them to be.

being succinct in your arguments helps. sometimes when you go on for pages, it feels like you are preaching, and this comes across rude

written word is extremely hard to convey context and tone. i am sure you know this, but i think it would be good for you to re-read your posts, and try to see whether someone will take the negative view of what you said

also, if you want to dish out insults to bacon without anyone else having an opinion on it, do it in a pm.

[Bob B]

I know I seem to have a lot of ideas but here is another one.
Make the season just 9 weeks. The 10th week is a venue final.

Congratulations Sunbury2 for pointing out the most obvious solution to a problem that we have had since day one.

One would think it would be so easy to have preplaned the whole year showing where and when the finals will be played for each season.

So, why haven't NPL taken this idea that appears to be a simple solution to us knowing the time, date and where each the finals will be held???????

I can't wait to see the reply from NPL management.

these are from page 2 bob

you are quite clearly arguing two different points bob - sunbury is talking about changing hte structure of NPL, you are talking about the timing of the finals


when we try to point this out to you, all you do is be rude. im sorry if you dont feel that you are being rude, or "like my approach" but if i think something is rude, i will tell someone.

i am man enough to admit mistakes, or take criticism without it degenerating into insults or sarcasm, and i am sure you are as well bob. but sometimes your posts come across as rude and sarcastic, even when you probably don't mean them to be.

being succinct in your arguments helps. sometimes when you go on for pages, it feels like you are preaching, and this comes across rude

written word is extremely hard to convey context and tone. i am sure you know this, but i think it would be good for you to re-read your posts, and try to see whether someone will take the negative view of what you said

also, if you want to dish out insults to bacon without anyone else having an opinion on it, do it in a pm.

It seems to have taken you a while to realise there are 2 topics one being that of Sunbury's which I did initially respond too and mine.

Should I have started a totally new topic (thread if it's the correct term) only to be told it's the same as Sunbury's, who knows?? What did happen was I took Sunbury's initial idea and offered something different. Is that a bad thing, no! Because that's what happens when you pool ideas.

What you have as my earlier quotes are true and correct. Since then I had moved on and I thought I made that pretty clear. Did you actually read this post properly? Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:13 pm

The following is part of that post, hopefully it will make more sense as to the idea/suggestion I was trying put forward.

Imagine "IF" the FTT events in the "Metro Regions" had their $5,000 broken into say 5 x $1,000 to win events like the "Country Regions".

So, in the last week, that being either the 5th or 10th week 5 selected venues from each of the 5 metro regions would hold a $1,000 to win tourney on one of the 5 week nights.

Personally I prefer the 10 week deal and bigger money but that's me. Sometimes little fish are sweeter so maybe the 5 week thing is good for everyone.

Anyway, this would or could create a fabulous tourney trail of a $1,000 per night in each "Metro Region" PLUS, the "Country Regions" would also be open to all comers and played on the Saturday and Sunday.

At the end of each season a different venue will hold the event in each region. So as to share the rewards that should come from the additional playing group that will be chasing the $1,000 to win.

Obviously there may be reasons "for and against" the idea and I'm sure you and others will pick it to pieces. But it is an IDEA, SOMETHING to look at and maybe, just maybe, it can create a greater interest than the last FTT turn out in both city and country and cut out the whinging.

Unfortunately it was a lengthy Post so you may have skipped a few lines and just picked out a couple that interested you. That's why I start by saying "IMAGINE IF".

As you know I'm not a yes/no person as my past is hard to throw away. I was used to doing long boring reports and simple yes/no reports were not acceptable as giving enough insight to a given subject.

In regards to sarcasm, rudeness etc, I'm not alone in that area and I can get nasty if provoked. There is a dark side to me that I sometimes find very hard to keep contained.

So lets just say you have had your say and you haven't got anything positive to add to my post and leave it at that.

And as far as posts regarding Bacon and myself are concerned don't read em or get one of the moderators to edit them if you feel offended.

By the way I looked up "succint" and I'm surprised as to where a young bloke like yourself has the time to find these words, are you bored? Have a good day benny the cunt I will be.