Leaderboards.

[bennymacca]

how is this going to change things compared with how they are now?


instead of your complex system, why not just say that in week 10, the winner of any tournament gets automatic states qualification.

[sunbury2]

how is this going to change things compared with how they are now?


instead of your complex system, why not just say that in week 10, the winner of any tournament gets automatic states qualification.

benny the cunt means the top 40 of a venue over nine weeks. Are in a main venue final. All others are in a side event, only the winner gets to the final table. Means that for playing well enough to be in the top 40 over the weeks 1-9 you have a much better chance of winning entry to the states , than someone just playing in week 10!!!!!
Is it really that complex????????

[Bacon]

what if this is at a 120 player venue? The top 40 play off, and get to final table after 2 1/2 hours play. But the side tourney is tighter, and goes for 3 1/4 hours. Does the main final have to wait 45 minutes?

Is there card redraws for this? I'm sure the venues would still expect the cards to be used to raise cash? How does it work, into the side event for either, or if u are drawn back u go where u started?

How does this reward regional players anyway? Or multi-gamers? It just seems to me that it gives a luckbox like me more chance on qualifying. If i'm not good enough to make Top 5, then what realistic chance am i gonna have at the Champ weekend anyway?

[sunbury2]

I have to work now but Maybe i am looking at the current situation wrong.

This is how I see it.
How to qualify for state final.
Top 50 on state leadeboard (currently only benefits people playing multiple games per week at medium/ large venues)
Top 5 at each venue. (benefits best 5 at that venue)

My idea
Top 3 from a venue. (benefits truely the best 3 players in that venue)
Top 10 from regional region leaderboard (benefits 10 people in that region. means more regional players in the state finals)
Top 20/25 from metro regions/ those with large fields. ( benefits people playing large venues and multiple games)
The winner of event in week 10. (benefits the top 40 players from week 1-9 at that venue, benefits all players in week 10 as have an outside chance of playing in the states, benefits multiple game players as they have 7 or more chances or increasing their points and/or finishing 1st and direct entry to the state finals.) Also benefits the venue as you will have an increased field in weeks 7-9 as people are trying to make the top 40 and an increased field in week 10 as players have a last chance to make more points. Also means really the only way someone outside the top 40 can make the states is by winning the side event and main venue event as they probably won't have accumualted enough points to make the top 3.

[sunbury2]

what if this is at a 120 player venue? The top 40 play off, and get to final table after 2 1/2 hours play. But the side tourney is tighter, and goes for 3 1/4 hours. Does the main final have to wait 45 minutes?



How does this reward regional players anyway? Or multi-gamers? It just seems to me that it gives a luckbox like me more chance on qualifying. If i'm not good enough to make Top 5, then what realistic chance am i gonna have at the Champ weekend anyway?

The game is run exactly as normal. Same chip up cards same starting stack. If the final 8 of the main event is ready before the side event has finished then the person with the highest chip stack at the end of that blind structure makes the final table. TD can communicate this to players involved.

You will still need to be good enough to have finished in the top 40 during weeks 1-9 or good enough to win(or have chip lead) in the week 10 side event and win venue week 10 final. Not too easy!

[bennymacca]

in the current system, if you are good enough, you will make it, regardless if how many venues you play etc. if you are not good enough, then you won't.

[rcon]

I think most of your problem with this sunbury, is that whilst it sounds ok on paper, you really would have a hell of a time communicating it to the punters. Current system, whilst it gets a little technical when top 50 are taken out of venue LDBs, is rather simple to explain

I also think you're trying to compensate too much for regional players - why is it good business sense to cater for a group of players who by very definition of not being big multigamers, do not contribute as much to the prize pool/profit column?

[Des]

[sunbury2]

in the current system, if you are good enough, you will make it, regardless if how many venues you play etc. if you are not good enough, then you won't.

In any game if you good enough you will win, AFL, NRL etc.
In poker there is the some amount of luck! If your Ace's get beat by 2 7 three weeks out of nine then you not going to make the state finals.
By having a venue final in week 10 you still have a chance to make the states.

All good players playing a lot of events at small venues/ regions will still be able to qualify if the regional board is used instead of the state.
Look at the state and only really rewards high volume, at large events. (metro areas)
By using the regional leaderboard you will still cater for these players if using top 20/25 as well as muliple venue players in regional areas.

Currently if you make the TOP 50 of the stateleader board you are probably in the Top 3 of a venue somewhere. I don't think any players will be disadvantaged if the regional leaderboards were used. Though small regions will have an increased presence in the state finals.

[sunbury2]

I am just trying to get players playing for the whole 10 weeks.
all I have had time to look at is VIC stats from last season.

High volume players and large event players won't be disadvantaged as they will still be able to qualify through their venue or regional leaderboard. 18 of 25 players in season 5 2008 finished in the top 3 of a venue, So even though multiple venue players still pretty good.
Good players will always make the top 3 or top 10 (Top 25 metro areas)of a regional area.
Means all players are playing for something come the 10th week.