What's hot- what's not

[BigPete33]

At the moment, it doesn't matter if you mostly suck...just keep playing as much as you possibly can and you'll make the final anyway

I believe everyone should have a say........but can we please leave the " I have nothing else to do but stir up some pointless useless crap just to piss off the mostly intelligent people" in it's own place (note...no smilie)

If you're suggesting that isn't the case..then I'm laughing.

[BigPete33]

But If we continue to run the system like we do, then players will have to rely on skill, and I'm sure bigpete will have something bad to say about that.

unfair!

Actually..that'd be lovely

[Lizard]

Lizard it sounds good in theory.

But then players would start saying that the guy who has played 50+ games has a lower average than the guy who has 25+ games.

Not to mention players that would stop on 49 games if there average doesn't let them make the top 25.

Also splitting the averages like that would create a huge headache for the IT department, especially with some of the other things that have to be added in first.



Is it just me, or is this topic just starting to be this way vs that way vs another way? No one is willing to concede to either side?

Should be easy for IT.
Just in case I was misunderstood.
If you play 25 games or over, you’re best average of your total games is calculated to put the best 25 players through. (Same as first season when there were no arguments)
+ 25 more players go through for the top 50 games or more played with the highest average of there total games. (More games usually means less average so if you make top 25 games played and you have played 49 I dare say your a sure bet for 50 or more games played.

[Darren B]

But If we continue to run the system like we do, then players will have to rely on skill, and I'm sure bigpete will have something bad to say about that.

unfair!

Actually..that'd be lovely

Good to hear Pete. You can get started tonight. I'll send you a couple of ebooks

[Garth Kay]

OK,
1.) NPL = Not all about poker or poker skills.
2.) NPL = Business, and as a business we need to create revenue and to create a sustainable/marketable product.
3.) NPL = FUN, FAIR and FREE poker at all of our venues.
4.) NPL = Majority of people just want a good time. We need to keep things simple and easy to explain, some of the ideas being regurgitated or spewed up are either redundant or almost to the point of ridiculousness.

I apologize for some of the formats put forward by staff, and in no way are they indicative of the direction we may be taking. In saying that I think it is awesome to see staff voicing their opinion on this forum.

To say a player can play 100 games and play terribly and still make the finals is wrong, even at 100 games they would need to final table at least 15 times in a field of 45 or more? That would have to be a bare minimum. I repeat that is a final table appearance 15 times out of 100! Most of our upper echelon players should be final tabling 25% to 30% of the time, if anyone disagrees with these percentages let me know. So therefore even at a strike rate of 15% this player would have to be classified as an average player.

And at NPL that is what the majority of our players are, average people with average or novice skills, who wish to head out to a pub for a good meal and some drinks with old or new friends.
As a company any marketing or revenue building idea that we generate will be targeted at our greatest market: the average player who just wants a social night out.

Every argument put forward or any rebuttal is redundant. This topic has just turned into one big flame and it's now beginning to sound like siblings arguing against each other, not because there is an argument but just for the sake of it.

There is obviously no point stating, again and again, why we have put the new system into place and how it isn't that great a detriment to other players and how it is a way of rewarding the BEST NPL players. Not the best poker players in NPL but the best NPL players.

But something you should do, is next time you see one of our "mega game" players, is thank them. Because without this small percentage of players playing repeatedly; the prize pools you play for would not be as large. Every player who plays more than two games a week, drives an additional $2000 into the prize pools each year. Now that all adds up in the long run. So the top 50 of the State leaderboard drives in almost $100,000 per year. That's pretty ambiguous but it gives you an idea of how much those multi game players are worth to this company, and to yourselves as serious players playing for a chunk of over $1,000,000 in prizes and cash we are offering this year.

The current system used will not be altered. Not for several seasons at least, so guys get used to it. I will retract the previously made statements if you either get s petition signed or get players to email me, if I hear from over 4000 players (20% of our membership) then I will contemplate changing the system.

[Origami]

Them's the rules boys.

the cards are dealt !

play the cards you've got.

play to the rules.

May the best men win.

cu at the Final table.

and may I win more than I lose ( that will make me a WINNER !).

[Origami]

Bruce I edited this post because all you did was quote someone else and then not say anything

Pete

agreeance and support was the reason for the post submitted.

[Lizard]

OK,
1.) NPL = Not all about poker or poker skills.
2.) NPL = Business, and as a business we need to create revenue and to create a sustainable/marketable product.
3.) NPL = FUN, FAIR and FREE poker at all of our venues.
4.) NPL = Majority of people just want a good time. We need to keep things simple and easy to explain, some of the ideas being regurgitated or spewed up are either redundant or almost to the point of ridiculousness.

I apologize for some of the formats put forward by staff, and in no way are they indicative of the direction we may be taking. In saying that I think it is awesome to see staff voicing their opinion on this forum.

To say a player can play 100 games and play terribly and still make the finals is wrong, even at 100 games they would need to final table at least 15 times in a field of 45 or more? That would have to be a bare minimum. I repeat that is a final table appearance 15 times out of 100! Most of our upper echelon players should be final tabling 25% to 30% of the time, if anyone disagrees with these percentages let me know. So therefore even at a strike rate of 15% this player would have to be classified as an average player.

And at NPL that is what the majority of our players are, average people with average or novice skills, who wish to head out to a pub for a good meal and some drinks with old or new friends.
As a company any marketing or revenue building idea that we generate will be targeted at our greatest market: the average player who just wants a social night out.

Every argument put forward or any rebuttal is redundant. This topic has just turned into one big flame and it's now beginning to sound like siblings arguing against each other, not because there is an argument but just for the sake of it.

There is obviously no point stating, again and again, why we have put the new system into place and how it isn't that great a detriment to other players and how it is a way of rewarding the BEST NPL players. Not the best poker players in NPL but the best NPL players.

But something you should do, is next time you see one of our "mega game" players, is thank them. Because without this small percentage of players playing repeatedly; the prize pools you play for would not be as large. Every player who plays more than two games a week, drives an additional $2000 into the prize pools each year. Now that all adds up in the long run. So the top 50 of the State leaderboard drives in almost $100,000 per year. That's pretty ambiguous but it gives you an idea of how much those multi game players are worth to this company, and to yourselves as serious players playing for a chunk of over $1,000,000 in prizes and cash we are offering this year.

The current system used will not be altered. Not for several seasons at least, so guys get used to it. I will retract the previously made statements if you either get s petition signed or get players to email me, if I hear from over 4000 players (20% of our membership) then I will contemplate changing the system.

So what are you really trying to say?


Just kidding

[Nathan Butler]

I just worked out my ranking based on my system (i have only pllayed 7 events though)

Final Table = 57.14%
Average 10-15th = 14.28%

FT points = 571.4
T15 points = 71.25

Average FT finish = 3.75
Average T15 finish = 2

Score FT = 152.26
Score T15 = 35.62

Total = 187.64

Average players per scoring event = 45.2

Ultimate score/ranking = 8,491

Not a shabby score me thinks!

Hey garth, email your event played and ranks, ill work out your score. You've only played a hand ful of games but you been playing pritty successfully....

Sorry Enzo and Emily kicked you butts

Nathan Butler
Mr CBD

[BigPete33]

In defense of enzo...he's played a bazillion games and you played 7.

nice comparison