Current Average System vs Old Average System

[David]

Hey all,

There's been some talk about what's good and what's not about the way the averages are worked out this season.

I thought I'd see how it would pan out if the old system was in use this season.

Bare in mind - this is not my opinion at all, just putting some numbers out there for you to see.

Current top 10 as of 10am Monday 17th December:


1. Terry Hutchinson
2. old-man daryl Alderson
3. Enzo Demizio
4 .Sean Alderson
5 .Nicholas Ash
6 .Matthew Guilleaume
7 .Tracy Bennett
8 .Steven Nissen
9. Chris Bray
10. Grant Paynter

To break this down, lets look at these 10 players, and where they would be in the old system:

1. Terry Hutchinson - 11th
2. old-man daryl Alderson - 15th
3. Enzo Demizio - 37th
4. Sean Alderson - 22nd
5. Nicholas Ash - 20th
6. Matthew Guilleaume - 79th
7. Tracy Bennett - 42nd
8. Steven Nissen - 85th
9. Chris Bray - 62nd
10. Grant Paynter - 70th

Here is the top 10 at the moment, if the old system was in place:

1. Jacob Irwin
2. Paul (The Cougar) Emslie
3. Bob Bermingham
4. Brett Tarca
5. William Chappell
6. Ian Howarth
7. Eddie Kulli
8. Brenton Roser
9. Paul Sparks
10. Bobby Mykytyschyn

The following people are currently NOT in the top 50, but WOULD be in the old system.

Eddie Kulli - currently #89 would be #7
Bobby Mykytyschyn - currently #69 would be #10
Jason Mackie - currently #85 would be #13
Monica Peterson - currently #139 would be #16
Andre Jaugietis - currently #52 would be #17
Joe Pavic - currently #144 would be #18
steve Bernhardt - currently #76 would be #19
Mark Arbon - currently #98 would be #24
Chad Wilkinson - currently #67 would be #25
Antoni Kenski - currently #132 would be #28
Michael Riley - currently #58 would be #29
Anthony Prideaux - currently #64 would be #30
Rob Mandalik - currently #117 would be #31
Jess Nies - currently #97 would be #33
Steven Valente - currently #65 would be #34
Carlo Congiusta - currently #130 would be #35
kim evans - currently #73 would be #36
Gordon Foden - currently #135 would be #38
Adrian Greene - currently #109 would be #40
David MacMillan - currently #120 would be #41
Rick Trevillian - currently #113 would be #43
Max Ley - currently #133 would be #44
Sallea Dempsey - currently #106 would be #45
Jess Beattie - currently #99 would be #49
Wai-Marie Brown - currently #146 would be #50

The following people are currently in the top 50 but would NOT be in the old system:

Robert Britvic - currently #48 would be #54
darryn roser - currently #28 would be #56
Chris Bray - currently #9 would be #62
Tony Bickle - currently #19 would be #65
George Costoglou - currently #22 would be #66
Matthew Wicks - currently #16 would be #69
Grant Paynter - currently #10 would be #70
Tony Ward - currently #15 would be #71
Matthew Guilleaume - currently #6 would be #79
Todd Fullagar - currently #31 would be #82
Isaac Herkiloglu - currently #35 would be #83
Steven Nissen - currently #8 would be #85
Maria Ward - currently #13 would be #87
Ron Morgan - currently #36 would be #91
Jason Deakin - currently #24 would be #97
The Raven (Shane Voelkel) - currently #11 would be #98
Rachel Simpson - currently #23 would be #103
Kosta Economou - currently #26 would be #104
Carly Joseph - currently #33 would be #107
Markos Vassiliadis - currently #27 would be #108
Ryan Grundy - currently #38 would be #114
Christopher Frost - currently #32 would be #122
Tim O'Reilly - currently #47 would be #123
Jason Stewart - currently #42 would be #125


You have to remember - people overall are playing a LOT more games since the new system encourages this! So it wouldn't be entirely accurate to assume the results would be the same as the old system.

David

P.S. Pete is a gun (he told me to say that)

[Des]

Pete is a gun, just misfires a lot.

[BigPete33]

lol

[David]

Pete is a gun, just misfires a lot.

[Boss260]

Hi ya all, so under the new system im in top 50 but the old system im out, well i think i like the new system.
The thing is i play alot of venues but most of them are the smaller ones, so if the old system was applied i would have to give up playin at venues i enjoy with people i enjoy playin with and go to games where they have bigger numbers to make the top 50.
But honestly why should i have too

[Garth Kay]

DAM YOU DAVID.
I had spent two hours today working this out until I saw this post just then.
Was going to put it up.
After speaking to several people at Pooraka yesterday, the general consenus is they enjoy the new system and think it works better.
So at the moment the new system is here to stay!

[Darren B]

...and of the "NOT in the top 50, but WOULD be in the old system" players, how many are in the top 5 at venues anyway 'cos they are our better players???

I would do this myself David but I am currently very busy with photoshop.

You were a very pretty boy at six yrs of age. What happened??

[David]

DAM YOU DAVID.
I had spent two hours today working this out until I saw this post just then.
Was going to put it up.
After speaking to several people at Pooraka yesterday, the general consenus is they enjoy the new system and think it works better.
So at the moment the new system is here to stay!

Excel is my friend

I guess the new system is split in two halves - those who play a LOT and those who don't.

I can understand rewarding the people who bring in the most revenue, but it does affect what the "top 50" really is.

Those good enough should get top 5 - you're right. But some people are playing 5 times a week which one would assume, is the same venues more often than not.

So they surely would be getting more of a chance to get in to the top 5's than people playing once or twice a week.

I'm not for or against as such - just playing devils advocate.

It makes a mess of the word "average" - that's all

Imagine Sir Don's average, if after 25 innings' he could erase the ducks with whatever he made after that!

I can understand people liking the system. Higher numbers are always cool. It just turns in to the top 50 for those who play 3 - 7 times a week.

Also - as mentioned before, this isn't the best 50 players in the state.. so maybe the front page shouldn't say "SA Top 10 Players"

[David]

Here is the current top 150
(Again, points change all the time, so it's just a snapshot)

The last column is where that person would be in the old system.

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[Des]

Instead of the current system why not have this.

Top 25 based on Average (under the old system)
Top 25 based on Total Points gained.

Thoughts?