Season 3, and the changes it brings with it!!!!

[rcon]

i was biased in my opinion of this level, because i only had about 3K when this level came around, and it allowed me to play for a while longer until i got a good hand - i ended up 9th so that was good.

Very similar to how I felt with regards to the 2k add-on card at PHCC the other night. Hard to be objective when you attribute your (chance at) success to it

Both seem like good initiatives that may allow (slightly) more considered play, whilst still giving the TD's & TAs some sleep.

[Bob B]

Sounds good on the Sky tourney Garth, nice job.

We had the $2k chip up at Para Hills on Thursday and the only problem I found for myself and a couple of others on our table was the following.

Like many other players I prefer to only use the starting stack at the beginning. Unfortunately, I came across a couple of really bad beats and had to use my first card before the first break.

Now I found that I became more protective of my second card so that I could get the $2k after the first break. I know there were hands that I like to play but folded due to the extra cash.

Having said that, if I had played those hands I would have had to fold or get busted anyway. But it did make me close shop and try to ride out the last couple of hands prior to the first break.

I also have another queerie regarding the chipping up of $2k if your out of the game or still at the table. There was a small survey on forum and I believe there was a majority in favour of chipping up a low stack up to the $2k if they were still at the table.

Has a decission been made regarding this as yet????????

Regards Bob B

[studmanxxx]

Bob, are you referring to chipping up only the lowest stack at the table to 2k, or all stacks at the table that are less than 2k?

In either case, I couldn't agree with it, as when the work has been done to bust an opponent down to (say) $300 in chips and have them crippled, you don't want to have them chipped up and back in the game!

The passport draws are different, coz that is just a lucky dip, but I hope NPL doesn't go with charity chip ups.

[David]

Bob, are you referring to chipping up only the lowest stack at the table to 2k, or all stacks at the table that are less than 2k?

In either case, I couldn't agree with it, as when the work has been done to bust an opponent down to (say) $300 in chips and have them crippled, you don't want to have them chipped up and back in the game!

The passport draws are different, coz that is just a lucky dip, but I hope NPL doesn't go with charity chip ups.

I'm pretty sure Bob means being chipped up if your name gets called out AND you're still in.

[AceLosesKing]

I really don't see the problem in being chipped up to 2k if your name is called out (at the second break) and you've got less than 2k. It'll stop players going all in for 1k and "hoping to get their name called out even if they lose."

[Bob B]

Bob, are you referring to chipping up only the lowest stack at the table to 2k, or all stacks at the table that are less than 2k?

In either case, I couldn't agree with it, as when the work has been done to bust an opponent down to (say) $300 in chips and have them crippled, you don't want to have them chipped up and back in the game!

The passport draws are different, coz that is just a lucky dip, but I hope NPL doesn't go with charity chip ups.

Hi there STUDMAN. I am talking about the passport system as well as the new system to be introduced. Maybe I didn't write it properly so I'll try again.

New system using flight cards while still playing

We trialled the new system for season three (3) last Thursday. We had one white card worth $1k and one coloured card worth $2k if you didn't use it before the first break. If you used the coloured card before the first break it was only worth $1k.

If you still had both you got chipped up $3k. If only the coloured one was left and you still had chips it was worth a $2k chip up.


The other queerie was regarding being chipped up if you were knocked out or if you were short stacked and name called out.

At present if you were knocked out of the tourney and your name was called out you would be reseated and chipped up to say $2,000..

Currently, if your at the table short stacked or not and your name gets called out you get nothing.

So, my queerie was, if a player is at the table and is short stacked and their name gets called out.

Why, can't their stack be increased to the same level as a player who was knocked out.

For example.

Player knocked out gets called back in and receives $2,000.

Player at the table has $300 and their name is called out should get $1,700 for a total of $2,000.

How fair would it be with the current sytem if the player who got knocked out is now sitting on the same table as the person with $300????

And to rub salt into their wounds their name was also called out but received nothing because he/she was still at the table.

There was a Post with a voting section on here and I think it was by ALK. The voting was a mojority in favour of chipping up if your name was called and you had less than the call back value.

I highlighted in red "In either case, I couldn't agree with it" then why do you agree with having someone who lost and was out of the game back in???

Daves reply is what I'm refering too plus the new system made me play tighter once I lost my first chip stack and had to get another $1,000 with the first card.

You'll see what I mean when you play the new season, good luck all.

[Bob B]

I really don't see the problem in being chipped up to 2k if your name is called out (at the second break) and you've got less than 2k. It'll stop players going all in for 1k and "hoping to get their name called out even if they lose."

exactly

[BigPete33]

I think you might be overlooking what was trying to be achieved with the 2nd draw....

a) encouraging players to fill their cards (that's fairly obvious)
b) encouraging players to stick around for at least the 2nd draw because their name might be called out and they'd be back in. This has possible benefits for the venue which I'm sure you can see.

From a poker only perspective, I hate it completely. From a tool that's designed to keep people at the venue perspective, I completely understand why they're doing it that way.

So if your name and one other players name was drawn out after the 2nd break and you were both still in the tourney and you received a chip up to 2k.... what's to keep players who are knocked out sticking around?

The only remedy to that process would be to keep drawing names out until 2 players were re-seated (which is what they currently do) AS WELL AS chipping up others who might be drawn out prior to this. That is an absolute farce in my opinion. It's already bad enough that people get drawn back in

I'd LOVE to be chipped up to 2k if I was struggling at that stage of the tourney (I'd also much prefer any lucky draws be for players still in), but I bet the venues would equally love it if players stuck about and just maybe spent a few more bucks hoping to be drawn back in after the 2nd break. So clearly what you and/or I might like isn't going to happen and it's a pretty good reason why not.

I think they've come up with a good compromise with the 2nd card being worth more because it might slow down players who will just call because they have another card and at the same time reward those who are still in the tourney and also still encourage players to fill both cards.

[rcon]

I think I was previously in the camp of chip up the short stack if they were called out, but I have changed my mind.

I rarely stick around for the 2nd break, or even the bad beats, if i happen to be out early (such as tonight), and the only people I feel who should be rewarded are those sticking around putting more money over the bar/pokies etc. That is what the 2nd draw is about - you are already sticking around if you're in tourney still! Business is business





As for being out early tonight - must ........... remember .......... to .......... to .......... be .......... patient .......... served .......... me .......... so .......... well .......... recently. .......... Grrrr ..........

[Ondie J]

It all sounds good, except Pete carding up, that's not good for anyone.

Yes it does! More chips for all! Huzzzzzah!