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Re: Manchester United

Postby AceLosesKing » Thu May 22, 2008 5:14 pm

Matty Norwood wrote:I wont call it football cause to me it will always be soccer, but what honestly frustrates me about the game and the reason i stopped watching it is that its not a level playing field. The clubs with the biggest money investors will win, its as simple as that.

As soon as a club produces a decent player, bang they get snapped up by a man u or chelsea for eg wayne rooney or sean wright phillips.

I really do enjoy watching soccer at an international level, as it is simply there best 11 versus our best 11. Not there 130 billion dollars versus our 10 milliion dollars.

Just my feelings im sure Pete will hammer me over this


Pretty much why I stopped following the Premier League too, Matty.

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Re: Manchester United

Postby pseft » Thu May 22, 2008 5:24 pm

Bacon wrote:
Des Beaty wrote:Roonie - FAIL he's from Everton
Rio Ferdinand - FAIL he's from Leeds
Giggs - FAIL he's Welsh
Scholes

I'm not up to date with their list as I dont have foxtel and saw hardly any games.


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Re: Manchester United

Postby Chelsea4thewin » Thu May 22, 2008 5:39 pm

in the final they were saying there were 16 nationalities in the line ups for both teams, anyone wanna help me guess them lol

1. England
2. Wales
3, Ivory Coast
4. Portugal
5. Holland
6. France
7. Germany
8. Ukraine
9. Brazil
10. Senagal (evra)
11. Nigeria? (mikel obi)
12.

thats all i can get
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Re: Manchester United

Postby Bacon » Thu May 22, 2008 6:03 pm

These are the national teams they play for.

1. England - 10 (Brown, Rio, Carrick, Hargreaves, Scholes, Rooney, Terry, Lampard, A & J Cole)
2. France - 5 (Makelele, Malouda, Anelka, Silvestre, Evra)
3. Portugal - 3 (Ronaldo, Carvalho, Nani)
4. Brazil - 3 (Belletti, Anderson, Alex)
5. Ivory Coast - 2 (Drogba, Kalou)
6. Wales (Giggs)
7. Holland (VDS)
8. Germany (Ballack)
9. Ukraine (Shevchenko)
10. Poland (Kuszczak)
11. Nigeria (Mikel)
12. Argentina (Tevez)
13. Czech (Cech)
14. Ghana (Essien)
15. Italy (Cudcini)
16. Ireland (O'Shea)
17. Serbia (Vidic)
18. Scotland (Fletcher)
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Re: Manchester United

Postby Des » Thu May 22, 2008 6:34 pm

I was more getting at the point... ENGLISH players.
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Re: Manchester United

Postby BigPete33 » Thu May 22, 2008 7:59 pm

What Matty said is actually fairly true (apart from the soccer bit).

At the moment it's the top 4, then the next 3 or 4, then the rest.

Generally speaking, success = huge money = more success.

That's with a view across the whole season though, on any given matchday it's entirely possible for anyone to beat anyone. Happens a lot actually.

If we take a look at the FA Cup (a knockout style cup competition) we'll find that EVERY team in England gets to take part in this (non-league teams and everything). The teams from the bottom levels start their matches way before the teams in the top divisions but it's entirely possible that a team from 'way down there somewhere' can go on a brilliant run and possibly even win the whole thing.

Cardiff City made the final this year and only narrowly lost to Portsmouth. Cardiff aren't even in the Premier League, nor are they going to be next season.

I distinctly remember non-league Exeter (non-league is what could be referred to as the FIFTH division or lower) drawing against Man Utd and in the mancs own backyard too. Havant and Waterlooville gave Liverpool a scare in the latter stages of this seasons FA Cup too.

So if you look at it from that perspective, it's absolutely brilliant.

It's also fair to say that there's plenty of clubs with big money (Tottenham anyone?) but they just never seem to get their act together. Leeds is another enormous club, absolutely shocking financial decisions cost them bigtime - they went from playing in Europe to absolutely nowhere in record time.

It's all relative Mr Norwood :)
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