Laying out the burn cards???? Before the Turn and River!!

[Grant Paynter]

Whats the story with a fair percentage of people placing the burn cards on the table in turn with the playing cards before the playing cards are turned over?
There is a reason there are "burn cards". Look it up guys.

[Ashley Higgins]

true the burn cards are there for a reason and it is one of my pet hates at the poker table when people burn before it is time to reveal the next card, also dont like people taking change before betting round is completed.

[shark]

Are you saying people get rid of all the burn cards before they have dealt each card or simply throwing away the burn card after the flop ready to show the turn, and after the turn ready for the river.

First situation is just plain wrong. And the second situation just adds confusion to the game. I like to at least keep the burn cards seperate from the mucked cards so everyone can see that they have been burnt.


Second post, I am guilty of this but usually only preflop. We are a bit slow in the country so it is hard to remember who needs change.

[Luke05(Jamo)]

speak up at the tables guys

[Grant Paynter]

What i mean is the flop will go down and then the next burn will get put face down next to the flop and then the turn face down and so on and so on, so they are ready to just turn over without having to pull them off the deck.

OR.... Lay down the flop and then burn the next card before the betting even starts and then again for the next burn before the betting even starts again.

Burning a card stops anyone seeing the next card just incase it is marked or exposed. I know this is not news to seasoned players.

It would be good to know the next card is marked and is a Ah if you are on a flush draw and the chipstack is HUGE with the river to come.

And i always speak up at the table when i see it happen.

Apart from that, there is nothing to really whinge about, it's a great game.

[David]

I much prefer people to burn just before they turn.

I do see where people are coming from though when they do it, they want to prove to themselves, and others, that a card was burnt.

I also agree with not getting change until the betting has completed! That annoys me no end.

[shark]

Burning a card stops anyone seeing the next card just incase it is marked or exposed. I know this is not news to seasoned players.

Thanks for the explanation. I always thought the purpose of the burn card was to make it more difficult to stack the deck. Just when you thought you knew enough about this great game you learn something new. Thankyou.

I usually deal the burn card face down on the table above the turn and river so people can see that 1 was burnt. I probably shouldn't do this either for the same reason that people could recognise the burn card from a mark and realise that card is out of the play or is that getting too pedantic.

[xtal]

true the burn cards are there for a reason and it is one of my pet hates at the poker table when people burn before it is time to reveal the next card, also dont like people taking change before betting round is completed.

i HATE this as well grrrrr...

[BigPete33]

I've seen this quite a bit too, have to agree I'm not thrilled by it but I've only got it on the list of minor annoyances.

but yes, the top card gets burnt for a reason so doing it early completely defeats the purpose.

I can see how players might do it to demonstrate that yes they have actually burnt a card, which is good in principle, but allow me to suggest the following which was described to me by Moose...

If you are the dealer, you have the dealer button (no da you say). When you burn a card, instead of chucking it into the muck put the burn card under the dealer button. This proves you have indeed burnt a card.

Also, if you are the dealer it's probably a good idea if you are the one doing the change - and only once all betting is complete for that round. This is easier said than done tho as people are still learning and we should all be helping each other really, but having said that - you won't learn unless you give it a try.

[Linda Gendle]

hey ppl
at my venues ppl are sick of hearing keep ur burn cards seperate from the muck pile and dont take change from the pot but occasionally it still happens what i have been promoting lately is that the dealer take charge and at my venues i have 90% regulars so if a new player comes he/she quickly learns because every one is doing it the same thing

i see red when someone lays out the whole board ready to just turn over when needed for a few reasons one is if there is a marked card then it is now exposed, if someone folds thier hand it could easily get mixed up with the board cards and lets say a card was sticky and instead of having one turn card there is two stuck together but not noticed until the river then what
the way we the TDs advise ppl to deal is no just us being pedantic it is to save confussion and possible disputes over pots etc.
same goes for taking change from the pot ppl dont consider that a player may be all in for less than the bb then three players may go all in over the top for different amounts then what u have is 6 ppl at the table mucking around with chips trying to work out side pots arguing about who was in for what
once i got called to a table at the end of a hand with 5 players all-in and the whole hands betting had to be redone a nightmare
there is reasons why we say dont take change