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Re: AFL 2011

Postby bennymacca » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:44 pm

David wrote:Don't be silly.

It's the same competition. It's evolved and had a name change. That was all.


personally, i think all clubs should have to differentiate their premierships.

i.e carlton can say they have won 15 vfl and 1 afl premiership (or whatever it is)

port can say 34 sanfl and 1 afl.

of course the vfl premierships still count, but they were in a different era and should be treated as such. i also think the brownlow medal should be put in the same category, but thats just my opinion.
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Re: AFL 2011

Postby David » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:46 pm

Port should - because they came from a different competition.

Carlton shouldn't, because it's the same competition, with a different name.
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Re: AFL 2011

Postby rcon » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:51 pm

David wrote:WE (we being Adelaide, Port, Fremantle, West Coast, Brisbane) joined THEIR competition. It's evolved, and changed over time, but it still has it's relevant and acknowledged history.
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Re: AFL 2011

Postby bennymacca » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:28 pm

rcon wrote:
David wrote:WE (we being Adelaide, Port, Fremantle, West Coast, Brisbane) joined THEIR competition. It's evolved, and changed over time, but it still has it's relevant and acknowledged history.
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i agree that the vfl history is relevant that is obvious, but i still have a problem with things from the 30's being counted as "AFL" records, because it inherently means hat western australian and south australian history is less important.

yes, there are more clubs from victoria, and yes, originally the interstate clubs joined the vfl, but NOW it is the AFL, not the VFL, and as such i think there should be a differentiation.

that doesnt mean that the VFL history should be erased, and it doesn't mean that melbourne can't say that they have ever won a premiership, but it does mean that the league will continue to be victoria centric.



ok, i have another question for you guys that i think is interesting

how many teams do you think will be in the afl in 20/50/whatever years time?

personally, i think there will eventually be 20 teams.

tasmania certainly has to have a team at some stage, it is a tradgedy that they dont. i can see this being a relocated team. someone like north melbourne. at present they are really cash strapped and are relying on emotion and tin rattling to survive. there will come a time in the future where they will either have the option to merge, move or fold, and i think they will have to move.

the next one is probably pie in the sky stuff, but i can also eventually see a team play out of darwin, or possibly darwin and north queensland combined. i reckon that would be great for the competition, but i am not sure how profitable they would be. that is probably a long way down the track but i think it would be awesome. it would mean that we would have a truly, truly national competition. (exception is canberra, but GWS and the bulldogs will/are already playing a few games out of there so that could continue)
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Re: AFL 2011

Postby 666HARPS666 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:43 pm

benny the cunt I think port Adelaide are in as bad a shape as the Roos, + weren't North the 1st team to play out of Canberra ? & that was a failure.
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Re: AFL 2011

Postby bennymacca » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:26 pm

666HARPS666 wrote:benny the cunt I think port Adelaide are in as bad a shape as the Roos, + weren't North the 1st team to play out of Canberra ? & that was a failure.


i never said that port weren't in as bad a shape, but there are 2 teams in adelaide and will continue to be, different story for melbourne imo, because there are many more teams.

in terms of canberra, i dont think it was ever a failure, as i said, the bulldogs still played a game there this year, i just think north melbourne can make more money in hobart which is why they decided to play games there instead.

heard james brayshaw on the radio the other day, by playing a game in hobart they will make about 500k per game, compared to a loss with the similar game at etihad. i think they need like 30000 or more crowd to make etihad profitable, so for games where north play a non victorian team it makes a lot of sense.
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Re: AFL 2011

Postby Bacon » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:29 pm

Western Bulldogs (formerly Footscray).

0 AFL premierships, 1 VFL premiership, 9 VFA Premierships

What's wrong with seeing this?

I don't like seeing (for example) the 1916 premiership (Fitzroy) in a count, because due to the War, the league had 4 teams in it. How can that compare to any of the 16 team ones (or even 12 team ones)
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Re: AFL 2011

Postby David » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:52 pm

It doesn't, but over the course of 100+ years, nothing will ever be equal.

What about the SANFL?
Should they have reset the premierships when Woodville and Central Districts entered in '64? The other teams had over 80 years head start.

Should Norwood's 10 odd flags right at the dawn of time not count?



Ignore for a minute, that the name of the competition was changed because really, it doesn't affect things. It's just a name.

When do you think the cut off should be?
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Re: AFL 2011

Postby trishan » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:53 pm

I think as the league currently stands there are too many teams. I think we should reduce the number of teams and have a relegation type system like with the EPL. Fewer teams means more competition which in turn means closer games and gives every game more significance than it has currently. This should increase crowd numbers and viewer numbers. Teams should merge and pool financial and player resources.
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Re: AFL 2011

Postby David » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:54 pm

There will never ever be a relegation system in the AFL.
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