Beat/Vent Thread

[trishan]

Min raise turn looks super strong to me. With the stack sizes I would either flat or jam but I guess it worked so it's not like you made a huge mistake

Don't think someone who played the A 10 above would think a min raise is strong. They're more likely thinking "I have an Ace, I am gonna go to showdown no matter what!" So I think betting more on the turn is good for this reason, especially if your stacks were bigger. Given your stack was only 7K and you managed to get it all in on the river without a huge river overbet then it worked out OK.

[bennymacca]

Min raise turn looks super strong to me. With the stack sizes I would either flat or jam but I guess it worked so it's not like you made a huge mistake

Don't think someone who played the A 10 above would think a min raise is strong. They're more likely thinking "I have an Ace, I am gonna go to showdown no matter what!" So I think betting more on the turn is good for this reason, especially if your stacks were bigger. Given your stack was only 7K and you managed to get it all in on the river without a huge river overbet then it worked out OK.

It's obviously player dependent Which makes this play fine, but I'm pretty sure I'm folding everything except a set and maybe AK here

[trishan]

It's obviously player dependent Which makes this play fine, but I'm pretty sure I'm folding everything except a set and maybe AK here

Unless the standard has greatly improved since I last played - I think the average 888PL player continues with sets, any ace, 88-AA, flush draws. I would be very surprised if more than 20% of players read a min-raise as strength there.

[Bacon]

C@@@###NTZ

#Game No : 179769917
***** Cassava Hand History for Game 179769917 *****
$150/$300 Blinds No Limit Holdem - *** 18 10 2010 12:55:00
Tournament #28412057 $1 + $0.10 - Table #10 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: MaximuS1137 ( $8863 )
Seat 2: mombeau1 ( $11900 )
Seat 3: Bacon8100 ( $5885 )
Seat 4: _dv7_ ( $8387 )
Seat 5: .....fishnic ( $7397 )
Seat 6: kiwicatman ( $10389 )
Seat 7: martuelg ( $5935 )
Seat 9: CuMBi3r0 ( $13500 )
Seat 10: avandebel ( $7750 )
Bacon8100 posts small blind [$150]
_dv7_ posts big blind [$300]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Bacon8100 [ Qs Qd ]
.....fishnic calls [$300]
kiwicatman folds
martuelg calls [$300]
CuMBi3r0 folds
avandebel raises [$600]
MaximuS1137 folds
mombeau1 folds
Bacon8100 raises [$1,650]
_dv7_ folds
.....fishnic folds
martuelg folds
avandebel raises [$7,150]
Bacon8100 calls [$4,085]
** Dealing flop ** [ 2d 4s 5h ]
** Dealing turn ** [ Qc ]
** Dealing river ** [ 3d ]
** Summary **
Bacon8100 shows [ Qs Qd ]
avandebel shows [ 6h 6s ]
avandebel collected [ $12670 ]

[John Miller]

#Game No : 129250081
***** Cassava Hand History for Game 129250081 *****
$0.05/$0.10 Blinds No Limit Holdem - *** 20 10 2010 11:45:27
Table Nogales (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: artster666 ( $9.94 )
Seat 2: Com_Ext ( $15.44 )
Seat 6: o0o0oo ( $4.59 )
Seat 7: Ndugu03 ( $11.90 )
Seat 9: 8rok3n ( $6.59 )
Com_Ext posts small blind [$0.05]
o0o0oo posts big blind [$0.10]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to 8rok3n [ Jd, Td ]
Ndugu03 raises [$0.35]
8rok3n calls [$0.35]
artster666 folds
Com_Ext folds
o0o0oo folds
** Dealing flop ** [ 4d, Tc, 2d ]
Ndugu03 bets [$0.63]
8rok3n calls [$0.63]
** Dealing turn ** [ 8d ]
Ndugu03 checks
8rok3n bets [$0.95]
Ndugu03 calls [$0.95]
** Dealing river ** [ 7d ]
Ndugu03 checks
8rok3n bets [$1.50]
Ndugu03 calls [$1.50]
** Summary **
8rok3n shows [ Jd, Td ]
Ndugu03 shows [ Kc, Qd ]
Ndugu03 collected [ $6.66 ]

Anything I can do besides the obvious and push on the turn?

Just losing a lot of these lately ...starting to get to me

[AceLosesKing]

Raise the flop.

As played, bet more on the turn. Probably check back the river, the only hand you beat is 9d9h etc.

[bennymacca]

Raise the flop.

As played, bet more on the turn. Probably check back the river, the only hand you beat is 9d9h etc.

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[trishan]

Fold Pre (.com)

[AceLosesKing]

Fold Pre (.com)

I lol'd, but folding pre here is way tight.

[trishan]

Guess I am just a nit who always folds J10s UTG+2

Edit: when UTG raises that is...