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Re: World Football Thread

Postby Conspiracy Theorist » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:22 pm

BigPete33 wrote:Which sports do you follow?


AFL
F1
Cricket
Womans Hockey (love watchin lesbians beat each other up)
Poker (Its a sport they tell me)

These are the main ones I make an effort to keep up on.

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Postby BigPete33 » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:38 pm

Cool, I like all of those.

None of them can really be compared to football in terms of structure though.

By that I mean they'll each have their national leagues (except for F1 of course) and it seems to pretty much stop there unless there's international competition such as the Olympics or The Ashes etc

Football also has club competitions that span a continent or region (such as Europe or Asia) and that's one of the major differences, along with having multiple tiers of a national competition due to it being so massively popular.

With regard to clubs loaning players out, it's actually fairly rare for a player to be loaned to another club that is in the same competition - especially if that player is at all reasonable at that level. As you said, Buddy Franklin isn't about to be loaned to the Crows or anything like that - that's just daft.

It's often youngsters getting games at clubs in a lower league or in another countries league, similar with players who are good but aren't getting a start very often. It's sometimes better for the clubs to loan those players out rather than selling them, because they are seen as an investment (both in $ and playing worth).

The situation with Perth offering 3 of their best players is pretty unique, but the main reason for it is the continued growth and development of football in Australia, and in that instance I think that's pretty darn awesome. It can be seen as a slight negative that 3 of Adelaides players wouldn't really be Adelaides players but there are too many more positives for everything else for it to be a bad thing.

A lot of the Socceroos would be looking for loan deals in Asia at the end of the A-League season anyway, purely for match fitness/sharpness ahead of the World Cup in 2010.
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Re: World Football Thread

Postby Conspiracy Theorist » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:56 pm

I just think the option of loaning players is disrespectful to the whole idea of organised sport.

A team is more than a collection of players. You could take the best 11 soccer players in the world and 'loan' them to adelaide. This wouldn't guarantee a winning team.

What about the 3 players being replaced?

I guess something about it just doesnt seem right.

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Re: World Football Thread

Postby Russ » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:57 pm

BigPete33 wrote:Cool, I like all of those.

None of them can really be compared to football in terms of structure though.

By that I mean they'll each have their national leagues (except for F1 of course) and it seems to pretty much stop there unless there's international competition such as the Olympics or The Ashes etc

Football also has club competitions that span a continent or region (such as Europe or Asia) and that's one of the major differences, along with having multiple tiers of a national competition due to it being so massively popular.

With regard to clubs loaning players out, it's actually fairly rare for a player to be loaned to another club that is in the same competition - especially if that player is at all reasonable at that level. As you said, Buddy Franklin isn't about to be loaned to the Crows or anything like that - that's just daft.

It's often youngsters getting games at clubs in a lower league or in another countries league, similar with players who are good but aren't getting a start very often. It's sometimes better for the clubs to loan those players out rather than selling them, because they are seen as an investment (both in $ and playing worth).

The situation with Perth offering 3 of their best players is pretty unique, but the main reason for it is the continued growth and development of football in Australia, and in that instance I think that's pretty darn awesome. It can be seen as a slight negative that 3 of Adelaides players wouldn't really be Adelaides players but there are too many more positives for everything else for it to be a bad thing.

A lot of the Socceroos would be looking for loan deals in Asia at the end of the A-League season anyway, purely for match fitness/sharpness ahead of the World Cup in 2010.


Jason Culina HAS to get a loan deal somewhere after the season finishes or i dont think he will be on the plane to South Africa
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Re: World Football Thread

Postby BigPete33 » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:31 am

I can see how loaning players would seem odd and non-standard.

But it's a squad game, often there's 2 quality players for each position on the pitch and then there's the rest of the squad not getting a game but for varying reasons. That's the usual scenario for a loan, giving players who aren't playing the chance to actually play and then impress their way into the reckoning.

Have a look at it from the opposite angle though.

Football is the single most popular sport in the world, so pretty much every other sport that doesn't offer their clubs/players that possibility seems odd to football :)

I guess it's just what you're used to.
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Re: World Football Thread

Postby Chelsea4thewin » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:38 pm

goodbye xabi alonso :)

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N165303090804-1808.htm


oh btw, F1s is a bullsh*t sport, the best driver doesnt win, the best car does
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Re: World Football Thread

Postby BigPete33 » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:47 pm

Jensen Button won a race, enough said hehe

Yeah Alonso is gooooone.

Looks like a replacement has already been lined up, no idea if he's any good though - certainly expect him to be reasonable but haven't seen him in action.
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Re: World Football Thread

Postby Bacon » Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:09 pm

BigPete33 wrote:Jensen Button won a race, enough said hehe

Yeah Alonso is gooooone.

Looks like a replacement has already been lined up, no idea if he's any good though - certainly expect him to be reasonable but haven't seen him in action.


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Re: World Football Thread

Postby Chelsea4thewin » Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:12 pm

yeah thats the guy, hes no alonso
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Re: World Football Thread

Postby BigPete33 » Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:36 pm

Yeah that's him, I know nothing about him though.

Looks like Bent has gone to Sunderland.
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