FTT Attendance

[Bacon]

One would think it would be so easy to have preplaned the whole year showing where and when the finals will be played for each season.

So, why haven't NPL taken this idea that appears to be a simple solution to us knowing the time, date and where each the finals will be held???????

I can't wait to see the reply from NPL management.

given your self proclaimed business knowledge bob, i am surprised you of all people would think it is "easy" to plan venues for a WHOLE year in advance - how many venues pull out, change nights, cater for weddings, have renovations, have special events, unforseen circumstances...

letting us know a season in advance would be good, a whole year wouldn't be feasible

Bob, u seem to be missing that Sunbury is talking about venue finals, which would just replace the week 10 at the venue and nothing would change re time and place. It's a whole concept change, not a info problem.

It has nothing to do with the championship weekend, which I'm sure the Npl has preferred venues in mind for the year, but negotiations need to be finalised before confirmation.

I don't see why u need to know 10 weeks before, surely a month's notice is enough, considering if u are likely to qualify, you've got a fair idea when it will be (around week 3 of new season). And i do have a family, and i do have sporting commitments so don't try to argue those.

[Bob B]

One would think it would be so easy to have preplaned the whole year showing where and when the finals will be played for each season.

So, why haven't NPL taken this idea that appears to be a simple solution to us knowing the time, date and where each the finals will be held???????

I can't wait to see the reply from NPL management.

given your self proclaimed business knowledge bob, i am surprised you of all people would think it is "easy" to plan venues for a WHOLE year in advance - how many venues pull out, change nights, cater for weddings, have renovations, have special events, unforseen circumstances...


letting us know a season in advance would be good, a whole year wouldn't be feasible

I agree with you benny the cunt I did have good business sense and I have received the finacial rewards to go with them M8. But if the owners of JM Insurance Brokers, Able Pest Control, The Bramalco Group, Forrest Discount Furniture, City Discount Furniture, just to name a few.

Had they asked for mine or my teams projected sales, marketing costs, promotional plans, costs and profits etc, and I showed them a 10 week plan they'd have my proverbial on the table. However, it's not about me or you benny the cunt it's about preplanning in advance as I'm sure NPL are doing and have been doing since their inception.


I don't know your employment back ground benny the cunt but most well structured businesses have a projected program or plan for the year ahead of some sort and I'm sure again NPL are no different. And if NPL used your platform of only thinking one season ahead then they are in deep carp.

Sometimes the unforeseen does happen and an adjustment is necessary. So, using your negative view NPL would have to seek an alternative venue to continue and progress. You highlighted the wrong word M8. You should have highlighted PLAN not WHOLE.

Preplanning makes good business sense because you have a PLAN that ideally if unbroken or disturbed will give you the results you have projected for the coming 12 months of business. And to go one step further as Garth has implied he has plans and ideas much further ahead than next season.

And yes, some venues do fall out for one reason or another but I'm sure NPL will need to rely on the support from their larger venues that are able to also plan and program 12 months ahead.

Sometimes something so simple as what was suggested by Sunbury2 can be overlooked by the best operators in the business. Hence they actually "POOL" ideas from their people associated with their industry. In NPL case it's their staff/management, TD's and us here on the forum.

The forum is a magnificent pool of ideas for Garth and others to take ideas from or have a simple discussion on such as we are doing now. Yes, there will be cancellations from NPL, yes there will be weddings, renovations and special events.

How far ahead do you think those other businesses plan ahead for those particular events? Parafield Gardens are having a major restructure of their premises. How far ahead do you think they had planned for when the best time was to do it, how much it was going to cost, how will effect their income, members, staff etc, etc.

One of my favorite saying was and still is ........ Plan your work and work to your plan.

And Bacon. For what it's worth you get a short version.

I figure Sunbury2 was refering to simplifying a 10 week season to a 9 week season and having the finals on the 10th week. This would alleviate any problems or grey areas with a "when or where will the finals be" and it just makes good business sense.

Have a good day boys.

[Bacon]

And Bacon. For what it's worth you get a short version.

I figure Sunbury2 was refering to simplifying a 10 week season to a 9 week season and having the finals on the 10th week. This would alleviate any problems or grey areas with a "when or where will the finals be" and it just makes good business sense.

Have a good day boys.

Sunbury wants a 9 week season, with the 10th week being a "finals" game at the same venue.

NPL have planned the whole year.

Season 1 = 10 weeks with a FTT in week 6 & another in week 2 of following season. Champs weekend in week 3. They may not release the venues, but they have pretty much released the format of the season.

It's now only 4 weeks until my soccer season starts, and the league still haven't finalised what teams are in what division, let alone released fixtures!! And they make heaps of money each year!!!!

[bennymacca]

all of what you said is true bob - i just don't think it would be that feasible to say that PGCC has the state finals 12 december 2009 or whatever - maybe it is, who knows.

having a plan, and fleshing out the details of a plan are two different things

[Bob B]

And Bacon. For what it's worth you get a short version.

I figure Sunbury2 was refering to simplifying a 10 week season to a 9 week season and having the finals on the 10th week. This would alleviate any problems or grey areas with a "when or where will the finals be" and it just makes good business sense.

Have a good day boys.

Sunbury wants a 9 week season, with the 10th week being a "finals" game at the same venue.

NPL have planned the whole year.

Season 1 = 10 weeks with a FTT in week 6 & another in week 2 of following season. Champs weekend in week 3. They may not release the venues, but they have pretty much released the format of the season.

It's now only 4 weeks until my soccer season starts, and the league still haven't finalised what teams are in what division, let alone released fixtures!! And they make heaps of money each year!!!!

Care factor ZERO

[muzzington]

Bob.

[Bob B]

all of what you said is true bob - i just don't think it would be that feasible to say that PGCC has the state finals 12 december 2009 or whatever - maybe it is, who knows.

having a plan, and fleshing out the details of a plan are two different things

benny the cunt I was just making a point that the majority of businesses plan at least 12 months ahead M8. I know that the Gardens would have loved to have had the finals earlier but they had prebookings going back well over 12 months.

Let's look at the average mechanic down the road who in most cases has no idea of anything regarding projected earning or forward planning etc so he goes to his accountant.

The accountant has no idea about mechanical repairs other than what's on the mechanics books so he makes his suggestions and advises the mechanic accordingly re, super, wages, over heads, etc, etc.

Bacon is annoying me coz he wants to argue I'm merely stating good business ethics nothing more nothing less.

Forward planning is a must in any business and NPL are a business. We the punters get pissed off when there appears to be an "I don't know when or where it is" theme related to finals etc.

I have a 12 month calander that has all of our birthdays, special event, bills to be paid, doctors appointments, holiday or employment breaks for the missus to keep her going, speedway meetings I want to attend, driftcar meetings for my son, major poker events I want to play in or see and the list goes on and on and on.

I'm sure you have something similar maybe more update and elctrical LOL. But we all do it one way or another it's just that we do it without thinking and it's called forward planning. What would you have to do if something happens or interferes with one of those event what do you do???????????

You go to PLAN 2, LOL.

[BigPete33]

I'd love to know in advance where finals are likely to be held throughout the calendar year.


Good thing I'm not completely retarded and haven't asked for the impossible to be done.

[AceLosesKing]

A month is enough notice to know where you'll be busting out from, Bob

[David]

If I were a venue, I'd hate to think I've have to wait 12 months MORE to be able to host the state final.

Even though it's not the intended reason - it's a nice benefit for venues to be able to improve and prove their ability over time.

Venues also come and go - planning too far in advance was be silly.

The NPL does plan in advance. Some things are just harder to plan.

In fact I would suggest they probably have dates planned, as a range. Venues, also. Closer to the dates things can be finalised.