Biggest donkout idiotic tourney I have ever seen

[Scotty]

Yes Acehole, 'non-thinking player' is not my choice of words, and it seems it takes ANY word starting with d.onk

Correct - the word was banned from 888PL events, hence we added it to the swear filter here. NTP is simply a substitute, with no empirical significance.

I also agree with the stance that expecting everyone else on the table will adhere to your own style of play is silly. If everyone did that - what a boring game it would be

On my own side note: I believe the hand AceHole uses as an example went slightly differently. EP call of 1000, MP raise from Ace to 4700 (just shy of 50% of stack), 3-bet all in of 7200 from the BB. Pretty much priced in, MP makes the call. Only a slight dog against AK with 7d5d, and takes the hand down.

Made a play for the blinds and EP call, and won a flip.

[ImAnAcehole9]

On my own side note: I believe the hand AceHole uses as an example went slightly differently. EP call of 1000, MP raise from Ace to 4700 (just shy of 50% of stack), 3-bet all in of 7200 from the BB. Pretty much priced in, MP makes the call. Only a slight dog against AK with 7d5d, and takes the hand down.

Made a play for the blinds and EP call, and won a flip.

Eh might be right there, but I recall it as MP limp, me on the button raise $3500ish (I know I earlier posted $1350 or so. but didn't really think much of it just using it as an example really) SB fold BB reraise All in for $4700 or thereabouts, I call and roll over 5 7d he rolls AK off, I hit the 7 on the flop, his hand doesn't improve. I need to mention however, I was playing a couple of ring games whilst playing the tourney.....the screen flashed up with a "ping peng" and I made an instant call. I knew I was crushed but would have made the call with 2 7 off regardless. I had the chips to take the risk/gamble and I think that is what this whole thread at least was about. Risk vs Reward, If a small risk like 5% of your stack can net a large reward (player out of tourney and his/her chips) then I'm not even thinking about it for a second, my chips would be in there as a course of second nature before I've even made the concious decision to do so.

[AJG]

i understand the concept, but i just think that its better to bust the short stack first, and then just attack the mid stacks anyway!

The main reason to prolong the bubble, is that once it has burst, those medium stacks will take more risks against you once they have cashed, they are looking to get a win.
They stay more timid on the bubble.

I understand the concept and I think its stupid. If you have the right cards to call at the right odds, do it.

I posted earlier, that of course if you get good cards you dont want to lay them just to keep the bubble alive.
I meant dont just call an extra SB with 75s just cos u can afford it and have a chance take out the SS...

[AJG]

I also agree with the stance that expecting everyone else on the table will adhere to your own style of play is silly. If everyone did that - what a boring game it would be

I made no comment about assuming styles of play. Only that sometimes I make the mistake of thinking players consider the same factors when determining their actions that most decent level players do (relative stack sizes, position etc)

[Scotty]

How someone thinks about their poker game at the table, and hence plays accordingly, has a fair bit to do with their 'style' of play, IMO.