NPL needs an overhaul

[Nevah play JJ]

Yeah I thought you had already answered your own question

What Des says is true also.

Being new to poker in general, (this is my first full season), I wondered if my thinking was right or if there was other opinions out there.


My only issue with that is, not everyone is being a tightarse, many just don't have the money to get out there and get stamped up on a day to day, week to week basis.

So to use your words, having a smaller stack means learning to have confidence in your own play and cards.

[rcon]

I personally don't have too much to suggest for the early blind levels - I think they work just dandy. However, once you've played tight, built your stack a bit you SHOULD be rewarded. I don't think the turbo blind structure rewards good play once you've got past the first, say 3-4 blind levels.

Say you come back after the 2nd break with almost double your starting stack, you've got 5k (I've not been playing a lot lately, so my memory of exact details is slightly hazy), you've only got 3 rounds of the table before being all in blind. Thats maybe 20 hands? how many of them are statistically likely to be "playable", and how many of them are you likely to hit - say 5-8 (I wish!) playable, hit maybe 3-4 of them? So you've got to get lucky to make it thru - can't afford to make a move - you don't have enough chips to push people off.

I think that is the point most people I've spoken with regarding this make.

But they'd all still rather play NPL


edit: firefox for speeling!

[Dug]

"but obviously still keeping the money making foundations of it. Otherwise it is like all other leagues."

sorry should have clarified "if the money making component wasnt there then NPL would be like all other leagues"

which leads me to Des's comment - something like "come on you tightarses, spend some money and support the venue"

What?? firstly as a moderator that is pretty bad. Secondly we are supporting NPL, the venue makes little from it if they only get 30 runners. Support the venue, you support NPL. Without the venue there is no NPL, unless you hold it in someone backyard. If everyone was true to free poker and no one stamped up, then there would be no NPL. If NPL was supporting the venue then they would lower the cost of being there in the first place, just to keep people coming to the venue. We all know that doesnt happen
Nicely worded statement Des.

This all confirms my theory on making money. Because why else do you play 2 blind levels and then go on break?? Not the argument though

NPL is better because:
1. more professional
2. more venues to play at
3. more members too.

Thats all because they were the first organised machine to wipe out 3/4 of adelaide's pubs with NPL.

Big pete, although its well run and organised and you have a computer that says next blind starts at 12 minutes, why by changing it and increasing chips and blinds will make it worse if its run so well??

Look obviously moderators and staff members will be biased, so whatever.

[Des]

Dragan, im one opinion, you wanted opinions... i gave mine.

Other people are giving theirs too. This is an open forum.

You came on here wanting a discussion, well you are getting it.

Of course I'm biased towards NPL. Why wouldnt I be?

Dug, I'm going to ask you this... offer your version of what you'd like to see NPL.

Blind Structure, Chip Stack, Drink Card options, prizes, finals.

Really interested to hear your reply.

[Des]

NPL is better because:
1. more professional
2. more venues to play at
3. more members too.

Thats all because they were the first organised machine to wipe out 3/4 of adelaide's pubs with NPL.

FYI NPL wasnt the first here in adelaide as far as i know.

[Bacon]

I don't think Garth has ever denied NPL is a profit-making business.

But they do return profits back to the punters.

I really can't see how playing an extra 3 minutes is going to improve (or hinder) your game. You know how much you have to begin with, and when the blinds change, so you play to your means.

*edit - removed example, cos it was carp*

A better player knows when to fold their cards.

[BigPete33]

Of course I'm biased, I've played in the other leagues and absolutely hated them. One of them I found to be nothing short of dodgy.

A larger starting stack will do 2 things in my opinion:-

1) give the 'better' players more of a chance to avoid being knocked out by the 'poor' players.
2) give the 'poor' players more chances to get lucky with their poor play.

With reference to point 1, this doesn't seem to apply so much in other leagues because of the higher farm animal % which directly makes point 2 the over-riding point. Where is anyone who's any good (at pub poker level) already playing?

It's just a bad idea IMO.

For the record though, I don't have any problem with how you have expressed your idea. In fact, I wish more people would take the time that you have to try and present a valid point of view. It just happens that on this occasion I don't agree with you, that's all.

I'm unsure if you're aware or not, but moderators of this site aren't employed by NPL or anything like that. We're just fellow players.

[AceLosesKing]

Of course I'm biased towards NPL. Why wouldnt I be?

Why should you be? As Pete said...

I'm unsure if you're aware or not, but moderators of this site aren't employed by NPL or anything like that. We're just fellow players.

[Matt Porter]

I was told recently by a regular NPL player who played in a Another Poker Luegge tournament, that if you won the tourney & hadn't stamped up you couldn't collect the prize-money. Free Poker?? I think not. He also told me he wouldn't be returning to the Others as he felt it fell short of NPL standards in several other ways as well. I dont like it when our players switch to the dark side, but it seems they always come back more appreciative of what we offer at NPL.

[Des]

Of course I'm biased towards NPL. Why wouldnt I be?

Why should you be? As Pete said...

I'm unsure if you're aware or not, but moderators of this site aren't employed by NPL or anything like that. We're just fellow players.

Would you want moderators who were more supportive of other leagues?

As big brother would say: I DONT THINK SO!

Big brother sucks by the way.. but the saying is good.