How do you know you are winning player?

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Re: How do you know you are winning player?

Postby Scotty » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:59 pm

So to use the figs in your screen cap:

Amount invested: $95.70 (29 games @ $3.30)

Winnings: $102.24

ROI = Winnings-amount invested/amount invested

= $102.24-$95.7/$95.7

= .068, or %6.83

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Re: How do you know you are winning player?

Postby Scotty » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:00 pm

missed your post. Yep, 6.83.

For an ROI to be %100 or greater, the profit obviously needs to be at least double the amount invested.

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Re: How do you know you are winning player?

Postby bennymacca » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:04 pm

AJG wrote:That seems like a lot of work for curiosity...


i already have a spreadsheet that calculates it, so all i had to do was copy and paste ur results in.

it seems holdem manager uses a different ROI than what poker tracker uses. (and OPR and other sites for that matter)

interesting
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Re: How do you know you are winning player?

Postby AJG » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:29 pm

i meant all the data gathering, but anyways...

The main thing that made me decide on HM was the filtering capabilities.
I tried the Trial of both HM and PT, and just pulled up PT again, although the last few tourneys arent imported...
It says ROI 122.15 when filtered for the $3 buyins...

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[Edit, you can see from the Winnings field, this is only missing the las 2 tourneys: $6.60 less]
Image ...11.59% of bad beat stories are just misplayed hands ...

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Re: How do you know you are winning player?

Postby bennymacca » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:43 pm

AJG wrote:i meant all the data gathering, but anyways...


all i did was copy and paste ur results from the 888pl webpage.
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Re: How do you know you are winning player?

Postby Bacon » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:11 am

Scott wrote:missed your post. Yep, 6.83.

For an ROI to be %100 or greater, the profit obviously needs to be at least double the amount invested.


Depends on your interpretation... HEM seems to include the $3.30 coming back as ROI too. And effectively, it IS a return.
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Re: How do you know you are winning player?

Postby bennymacca » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:29 am

Bacon wrote:Depends on your interpretation... HEM seems to include the $3.30 coming back as ROI too. And effectively, it IS a return.



as far as i have seen, thats non standard to calculate it like that. but as long as you know exactly what you are looking at, its all good
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Re: How do you know you are winning player?

Postby AJG » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:46 am

But what do you think about my screen cap from PT with same ROI??
It seems PT does the same thing then (include the buyin in the return)...
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Re: How do you know you are winning player?

Postby Scotty » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:48 am

They both seem to have a different idea on what ROI is :P

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Re: How do you know you are winning player?

Postby bennymacca » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:49 am

what is your net profit, and net buyin?
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