Apologies benny the cunt, How am I to know you work there? I mean, seriously, what are the chances of that? And how am I a fool not to have known that?
and for the record I did not say I worked on Admin software... As I said, you made claims without any support for them, had you said something like 'Being employed by the DSTO myself, I have found their admin systems to be crap' I would have mostly agreed, and not said what I did, I only made the comments I did cos a) u didnt qualify them and b) they
did sound a bit like a typical Windows Home User...
Had
I simply made the (incorrect, but example) orphan comment 'DSTO dont have the best engineers in the business' and said nothing more, what would your response have been? Judging from your previous post I would imagine something similar to mine!
Derogitory comments benny the cunt?
I was not derogitory toward you, but you have made a few of them in my direction... The statements you made regarding linux did show a lack of knowledge that I spoke of in that post... That is not derogitory... I may have said "you sound like .....", but that is an opinion based upon your own statements, and not a derogitory remark.
I know a lot of engineers in many fields, and I would be surprised if you could hold a conversation about the internal workings of modern operating systems quite frankly, even with your qualifications. You quite possibly know more than me regarding the hardware, but the comment you made about why linux has almost no security issues indicates my point. Lack of desktop users is not the reason. Good design is, quality coding is... You seem to have missed my emphasis on the word INTERNALS when u called me arrogant for making that remark... what more emphasis than bold and underlined would you like? massive text like you write?
Yes, I did say I wasn't working atm, I also said that was partly by choice, and partly due to having gone throught the windscreen of my car, ripping half my face of and ending up in a coma for over a week! Whats your point there other than something else to pick on.
I'm sorry, but you do seem to simply argue, somtimes it even seems simply for the sake of arguing, or ridiculing people over ridiculously minor things. (comment about my current employment status?)
Its not a 'pissing contest' AK, atleast I dont look at it like that. But benny the cunt amongst others have seemed to simply argue against alot I write here on these forums, and without qualification it seems to be simply for the sake of arguing... or have simply ridiculed me over insignificant things or errors, and quite simply I am sick of it!
While I don't have a full degree in Physics, I was only 1 semester away from completing this as a double major when I was involved in another injury (many years prior to the car) and decided to change to Math/Comp Sci when I returned, partly because the schedule of topics had changed in the 2 years I was away, partly because I had chosen a different path... Where's yours from benny the cunt? UniSA would seem a likely candidate as I get the idea you live to the North of Adelaide? I went to Flinders myself, pretty much cos it was the closest to me, and i couldnt be bothered with the commute to the city. UniSA didnt exist when I was an undergrad...
Again, apologies benny the cunt, but I hope that you can understand where I was coming from, and also that we can leave this BS behind us... As I have written in a number of threads now, there can be extreme miscommunication in non-verbal exchanges (and even in those), where it also seems to lead to aggression like here.
Truce?
BigPete33 wrote:Have to agree, there's no need for anyone to get so personal.
It's one thing to disagree and have a discussion on something and another to start throwing insults because you're not getting your own way.
Where did I get personal? I didnt belittle anyone, as you have tried to nor throw insults. And it certainly wasnt because i wasnt getting 'my way'. I was trying to make a point that just because software is free doesnt neccessarily make it of any less value than a product that costs $500. If you dont want to listen, I couldnt care less, but maybe others do.
AJG: Whilst I realise this is very likely not the case - so far your arguments/points/discussions on this topic have come across as nothing more than someone who likes Unix/Linux because it's not Microsoft and who gets all of their information from magazines and then regurgitates it. That's not me having a go at you, just saying how I see the points you have tried to make so far. I would encourage you to put them across differently if you're looking for a different type of discussion. Please note the word 'discussion'.
I did start by trying to discuss, and also tried to qualify my reasons so as NOT to come across as 'someone who likes Unix/Linux because it's not Microsoft and who gets all of their information from magazines and then regurgitates it'. But that discussion was simply argued agains without any qualifying basis for that argument.
IT itself is a very general term, this is true. Choosing not to list all previous occupations and their scope is not a reason to attempt to belittle someone though.
Belittling you was not my intention... And i didnt list all previos occupations either, only the ones relevant to the discussion
All you need to know (and indeed - all I will tell you) is that I've been involved in multiple forms of what is commonly (and far too broadly) referred to as 'IT' since 1994 at commercial (large and small), industrial, and domestic levels (shudder), with both hardware and software, and am still doing so today. I hold many qualifications, none of which are any of your business.
I dont really care, other than to guage what your contribution to the discussions are based upon. Which is the only reason I said what I did about my own experience and nothing of my (academic) qualifications other than an undergrad degree in Comp Sci.
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One of my reasons for not agreeing with you AJG is more to do with who was asking, or rather, the type of person/customer/end user that was asking.
In simple terms - if we say to someone "Ok here's an anti virus software product. Go your hardest", they will come back with "Awesome! How do I use it?". Cue facepalm.
Yes, I was also considering this when I made the comments I did...
Then we might get to have the same discussion again about firewalls. Then about anti-spam. Then about ad blockers. I'm sure you get the point.
I do, but really most modern software such as this, is largely 'install and forget' in a single PC environment, free or commercial. Commercial software certainly isnt any easier for the average end user to negotiate...
This is not the main crux of why I disagree with you, but is one aspect that needs to be considered regardless. Recommedning multiple products, none of which they'll know how to drive anyway, is doomed to fail IMO.
In the end, it seems my post was taken as a personal afront to those mentioned therein. I apologise for this, and would like to make it known that this was certainly not my intention, as I feel at times (in this and other threads) various people have been to personal even to the point of ridicule toward myself, so I would not deliberately do that to another. Please accept my apologies if you took me this way.
Truce?
I shall be taking no further part in this particular thread, as my original point was in reply to the idea that 'You get what you pay for' (i cant remember who said it atm), which simply isnt true, and all I tried to do since was back up my reasoning. As far as I am concerned, I have done that. I was NOT discussing the merits of any particular products, I only mentioned that I have had no virus issues with AVG as my antivirus solution. It was someone else who said that because I also used other software beside it, that proves that it isnt doing its job. (which again is not true)
I am simply stating "Don't overlook software simply because you are not charged for it"
). Since that I have been approached by both Sun's PARC, and Google in Singapore.
