Another Scoreboard question

[AceLosesKing]

I like this bit of your post Garth. I liked the old regional finals. When they were heavily promoted i remember some evenst in the riverland getting 90-100 players. These events were awesome, and adding a special points multiplier, perhaps additional prize money, or at the very least a cash buy in teams event embedded within a special points game would be awesome.

Hell a big points game may even increase the amount of players travelling to such events. I would absaloutely love it if Bruce brought a Barossa team and AK brought a Gawler team up to a riverland special teams event, or something similar.

This.

The old regional events kicked ass.

[bennymacca]

AK brought a Gawler team up to a riverland special teams event, or something similar.

what, are they gonna walk up there or something!

[AceLosesKing]

Remember, as Bruce once put it, they're my entourage.

Obviously they're driving.

[Bacon]

AK brought a Gawler team up to a riverland special teams event, or something similar.

what, are they gonna walk up there or something!

Thongs wouldn't last that long

[JMACK007]

great post garth.

I don't think it was a great post at all!

Garth, not only did you single me out for ridicule (without knowing why I didn't know how the DT leaderboard works this season), but you also TOTALLY misunderstood what I was getting at with regards to the timing of the AK & MM events. My point was that BOTH of these events are timed such that to play either of them (and run well), does not permit the player to play in venue that day. There's not much you can do about the MM, but the AK could be put 2hrs earlier (it's not exactly a "work friendly" (as you put it) time now anyway). My thinking was more about getting players to venues to support 888pl.

I have ALWAYS stood up for you and your product, but not sure my support is very well placed at present after your first point though.....

[Garth Kay]

Garth, not only did you single me out for ridicule (without knowing why I didn't know how the DT leaderboard works this season), but you also TOTALLY misunderstood what I was getting at with regards to the timing of the AK & MM events. My point was that BOTH of these events are timed such that to play either of them (and run well), does not permit the player to play in venue that day. There's not much you can do about the MM, but the AK could be put 2hrs earlier (it's not exactly a "work friendly" (as you put it) time now anyway). My thinking was more about getting players to venues to support 888pl.

Not sure my support is very well placed at present after your first point though.....

I didn't single you out for ridicule Jmack. I highlighted a deficiency in our score boards. If last seasons winner does not realise that the qualifying criteria has changed as well as the calculation methods then obviously something has gone wrong has it not?

I don't understand how you could think that was ridicule.

And I think you missed my point about the timing for the rebuy events.

1.) The timing for these large points events is actually ideal right now for the access of the majority of our players.

2.) The most any player will play in venue is generally three nights per week. That still leaves four nights per weeks where they have access to these games. Just the same as many players don't have access or will turn up to 7 games per week to play the same can be applied to the home game environment.

3.) So no matter what time we put these games on in whatever time, there will always be issues with them not been available 7 days a week to all 888PL players.

4.) And no matter what time these games are on it will not promote more in venue attendance from individual players.

[JMACK007]

No Probs Garth,

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one...

[Bacon]

No Probs Garth,

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one...

I wouldn't agree to that

[Garth Kay]

No Probs Garth,

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one...

What exactly are we disagreeing about?

The perceived ridicule or the timing of the events?

I'm sorry Jmack, but the fact that you of all people didn't realise how the score board was calculated this season until the last week of the season is of the greatest concern to me. That was the one thing that jumped out at me.

It simply means that we are really doing a fairly god dam awful job of communicating changes and explaining new concepts.

There are two pages in this thread that are a back and forth conversation on how DT score boards are calculated and the rules governing them, don't you believe that if our serious players are having that conversation in the last week of the season that should be of great concern to me?

And yes you have always been a standout supporter of our product and myself in particular and i thank you for it, and I'm sorry for any insult, which was not my intention at all. I guess that point resonated with me greatly because it was you that instigated the discussion.

As to the timing of the events what starting time would you recommend? Bear in mind that along the Australian eastern seaboard we run 70% of our events, that host 85% of our players, so all times will need to be in AEST.

[JMACK007]

I was refering to disagreeing on both points. I read your post as singling me out as someone who didn't know what was going on, probably only because you didn't elaborate in your post regarding this point. I will explain that I didn't know the new qualification method simply because it hasn't been a goal of mine this season, which has been more of a chase for the State Leaderboard, as that is something I have never achieved. So you don't need to read too much into the fact that I didn't know the change, and doesn't really reflect on any lack of communication from 888pl, it was my fault for not making it my business to be fully up to speed with the changes...

As far as the AK, EST14:00 instead of EST16:00 would probably be a better start time as it would allow it to finish before venues start, and therefore still give the players that have participated the choice to attend their venue....