Set of 4's on the turn

[Garth Kay]

And get sidetracked at work and look like a douche because I posted after results are clear.

[Garth Kay]

Also guys, micro level tournaments might mean loose, weak play post flop and on the flop, but all ins post flop (and even more so on the turn) generally mean strength and most times the nuts or nut draws.

Also it depends on hand strength perception from villains (so if villain thinks AA is unbeatable they will move all in here with AA) whilst a thinking player will laydown AA on the turn.

[Bacon]

i dont like limping any pocket pairs

Sometimes I like a limp with a low pocket pair, it can be a good way to get paid.

Unfortunatly this situation did not work out that way, but I would have played it the same way for a $2.20 buy.........for the chance.

Had the buy in been $200..........that changes things. I would have folded pre in that position.

For a $200 buy-in, I'm raising in that position. Heck, for a $2.20, I might too. But nothing wrong with flatting occasionally to set mine. Depends on the lay of the table. Seeing how passive it seems from that flop, I would have raised.

As played, I'm calling. $1030 to win $4755 in the end, with 10 outs, most likely 8 (given I have someone on 2 pair).

[Scotty]

Trishan do you call the two all ins?

At these stakes Matty I can't hit call fast enough.

Are you sure - drawing straightening board and I am pretty sure one of the all ins has the str8 already.

I'm not sure if stacking off here is the right play, too many hands have you beat and too many other hands have you stacking off pretty light on the redraw.

I agree with your first sentiment Garth, with respect to the straight, but I wouldn't say three hands beating us at this point qualifies as 'too many'?

[Garth Kay]

I agree with your first sentiment Garth, with respect to the straight, but I wouldn't say three hands beating us at this point qualifies as 'too many'?

Sorry it should say too many opportunites or hand combinations have you beat now and on the river. Most of these allins either have the nuts or are drawing to them.

I think there is also a lot more possibility here of villains waking up with 88 and 77 considering it is a limped pot, no play here is screaming out overpairs. Rather it's bigger sets, str8s, top two pairs and nut draws.

[Garth Kay]

Just stoved it.

If we are up against -
P3 -all 56 combos
p2 -ALL diamond flush draws
HERO - 44

We have 22% equity (Str8 has 56%)

If we are up against:

P1 - 44
P2 - ALL DIAMOND FLUSH DRAW COMBOS
P3 - All 56 combos
P4 - All 87 combos

Our equity drops to 9% (with the flush draw @19%, Str8 @ 61%, and two pair @ 10%) Set has lowest equity at 9.8%

So against three all ins we have equity, against 4 all ins we have none. NOTE: we are assigning a fairly tight ranges to villains here, some players will call off with Q8, K8 and A8 combos as well.

[pundies]

For a $200 buy-in, I'm raising in that position

To me the hand is weak. If I am called I am most likely out of position and unless I hit a set on the flop, potentially way behind.

At that early stage of a tournament, in that position, 44 is unlikely to be in my playable range. But you never know

[Garth Kay]

For a $200 buy-in, I'm raising in that position

At that early stage of a tournament, in that position, 44 is unlikely to be in my playable range. But you never know

Hence why you raise with it for the implied odds and the possible reverse implied odds.

[pundies]

Hence why you raise with it for the implied odds and the possible reverse implied odds.

I see the maths.

But I am more times that not folding in that position, early in a tournament.

Its a marathon, not a sprint. I will wait for a much better spot to reach for my chips.

In saying that Garth, I have set myself a task to become more educated on the maths side of poker, so perhaps I will do some 'odd' reading over the weekend.

[bennymacca]

In saying that Garth, I have set myself a task to become more educated on the maths side of poker, so perhaps I will do some 'odd' reading over the weekend.

maybe there is a quiz for you to do afterwards

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