King/Eight is it in your playable range.

[Matty Norwood]

Ask Matty Norwood how many times I have got him to spew off chips to me from one little comment. There have also been times when it has backfired

next time you say it im calling again.

"I want you to call"

ace high is good i call

[Garth Kay]

So what you are saying Pete you must take instinct, gut feelings, emotion out of you decision process.

Even though you have seen a player make a blind steal from a similar position and you must never defend your big blind no matter what if a player makes a 4.5k raise over your 2k BB.

And thinking I'll pay the 4.5k to see the flop is not on at all.

Real Question no BS do you consider when making a sizable preflop bet, what players are on the table and their calling pattens ? do want a caller? if you are holding 2 unconnected court cards.

In answer to your first statement, instinct, gut feelings and emotion will only help you on you way to Broke Town. If you have past history with a player - such as your blind steal comment - then this impacts on your decision, but this is information not gut feelings or instinct. You know the player is LAGGY in position so therefore you have a fair idea on his opening range.

Defending your BB in the circumstance you have described, isn't by calling 15% of your stack off. You want to defend your BB then a 3 or 4 bet is required to make your opponent spazz out and spew or you re shove into the middle.

In answer to your last question - calling patterns? What is a calling pattern? I am able to predict the playing patterns of my opponents based on their hand ranges and their position on the table. Hence my bet sizing, pot control and table talk are designed to have my opponent act in the manner I wish them too.

Ask Matty Norwood how many times I have got him to spew off chips to me from one little comment. There have also been times when it has backfired, but more times than not it all works. In the end instinct and gut feeling has and should have very little to no impact on a game where science and maths rule supreme as guiding decisions made.

I have several questions for you Gundog:

1.) When you make a call from any position to a raise, what hand are you putting your opponent on in before making the call?

2.) When you raise with a hand what are you hoping to achieve?

3.) What is the best position on a poker table?

4.) What are the odds of you winning a had if your opponent has QQ and you have
a.) AK?
b.) JJ?
c.) AA?

5.) Is there a difference in the table dynamic if you are the initial raiser or the one making the call out of position?

6.) Is it better to raise or call?

Just thought I'd re bump.

Do you want to discuss the hand and my thoughts behind them?

[muzzington]

No, everything he posts is just a boast.

[BigPete33]

Sorry bit late with a reply here...

gundog: with regard to gut instinct etc those are all factors - as is everything else as well. How big a factor is where it gets tricky. As Garth pointed out anything you feel you have learned about a particular player can then be labelled as 'information' and how you use that is up to you.

Having said that, you initially said that K8 is in your playable range and mentioned nothing about calling with K8 due to instinct.

I asked you about the DVD, you still haven't answered.

[bennymacca]

So what you are saying Pete you must take instinct, gut feelings, emotion out of you decision process.

Even though you have seen a player make a blind steal from a similar position and you must never defend your big blind no matter what if a player makes a 4.5k raise over your 2k BB.

And thinking I'll pay the 4.5k to see the flop is not on at all.

Real Question no BS do you consider when making a sizable preflop bet, what players are on the table and their calling pattens ? do want a caller? if you are holding 2 unconnected court cards.

In answer to your first statement, instinct, gut feelings and emotion will only help you on you way to Broke Town. If you have past history with a player - such as your blind steal comment - then this impacts on your decision, but this is information not gut feelings or instinct. You know the player is LAGGY in position so therefore you have a fair idea on his opening range.

Defending your BB in the circumstance you have described, isn't by calling 15% of your stack off. You want to defend your BB then a 3 or 4 bet is required to make your opponent spazz out and spew or you re shove into the middle.

In answer to your last question - calling patterns? What is a calling pattern? I am able to predict the playing patterns of my opponents based on their hand ranges and their position on the table. Hence my bet sizing, pot control and table talk are designed to have my opponent act in the manner I wish them too.

Ask Matty Norwood how many times I have got him to spew off chips to me from one little comment. There have also been times when it has backfired, but more times than not it all works. In the end instinct and gut feeling has and should have very little to no impact on a game where science and maths rule supreme as guiding decisions made.

I have several questions for you Gundog:

1.) When you make a call from any position to a raise, what hand are you putting your opponent on in before making the call?

2.) When you raise with a hand what are you hoping to achieve?

3.) What is the best position on a poker table?

4.) What are the odds of you winning a had if your opponent has QQ and you have
a.) AK?
b.) JJ?
c.) AA?

5.) Is there a difference in the table dynamic if you are the initial raiser or the one making the call out of position?

6.) Is it better to raise or call?

Just thought I'd re bump.

Do you want to discuss the hand and my thoughts behind them?

rebump

gundog do you plan on answering these questions?

[BigPete33]

And don't forget the gravy.. I mean... DVD

[BigPete33]

Can't help but notice the lack of a response from you gundog......

If you just don't care then that's fine and up to yourself but the offer of assistance was there.

[David]

Still waiting for fish and chips..

[Swanky]

Can I just pipe in here for a second.
The first thing I do when I look at my hand is ask myself, what can these 2 cards beat right now, as it stands, what can they beat?
Your first answer in this situation is Q high. So you need to then ask yourself, is he playing with Q high? Chances are not bloody likely. Right now if he has pocket 2's you're sunk my friend.
All I can say is learn to fold.
How many times have you folded a hand that would have won.... no doubt millions, but out of all of those hands you would have won, how many of those would have had a right to be playing in anyway.
Fold, K8 off all day every day, except heads up.

[Origami]

Can I just pipe in here for a second.
The first thing I do when I look at my hand is ask myself, what can these 2 cards beat right now, as it stands, what can they beat?
Your first answer in this situation is Q high. So you need to then ask yourself, is he playing with Q high? Chances are not bloody likely. Right now if he has pocket 2's you're sunk my friend.
***All I can say is learn to fold.
How many times have you folded a hand that would have won.... no doubt millions, but out of all of those hands you would have won, how many of those would have had a right to be playing in anyway.
Fold, K8 off all day every day, except heads up.

***Bruce's Skool of Poker.

Chapter 1 paragraph 6.