You're a Bunch of Factors

Hi Jav,

Please post the hand history here that you mentioned tonight. I would love to see it....

Hi Jo,

I'm telling you that hand we talked about, happened and if I find it I will post it (I'll look tomorrow), I have no reason to lie and had no issue with it or any hand you choose to play, that's the game.

But to be honest, I can't believe you went on super tilt when I knocked you out with the hand below???

Did I have to get lucky, Yes

Did I raise PreFlop, Yes

Did I shove on the Flop, Yes (I didn't call as you suggested in the chat box afterwards)

I get that you think my play was so terrible and so bad which you made it very clear in the chat box (and I respect your opinion) but what I don't understand is why that tilted you so much.

I gave you many walks when we were 4 handed, so when I raise your BB, what do you put me on?

If you think your A7o is good, how do you not re-raise all-in when you only have about 5BB.

I was surprised when you just called me, I expected you to go all-in or fold with your stack. I was trying to rep a big hand, so when the flop comes 9 high, what do you expect me to do, check???

I got a little unlucky on the last hand when all the money goes in but I have no issue with it as I got lucky to get that far.

Jo, I'm sorry if my play upset you, that wasn't my intention. I'm happy for you to reply in any way you see fit, I wasn't and won't get offended with whatever you have to say.


Table #2 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: Eehar ( $20,780 )
Seat 5: jav1000 ( $17,971 )
Seat 9: JMACK007 ( $6,685 )
Seat 10: ROYTRUDGEY ( $59,564 )
ROYTRUDGEY posts ante [$120]
Eehar posts ante [$120]
jav1000 posts ante [$120]
JMACK007 posts ante [$120]
jav1000 posts small blind [$600]
JMACK007 posts big blind [$1,200]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to jav1000 [ 3h, Ks ]
ROYTRUDGEY folds
Eehar folds
jav1000 raises [$2,610]
JMACK007 calls [$2,010]
** Dealing flop ** [ 4s, 7d, 9d ]
jav1000 bets [$3,600]
JMACK007 calls [$3,355]
** Dealing turn ** [ 5s ]
** Dealing river ** [ 6h ]
** Summary **
jav1000 shows [ 3h, Ks ]
JMACK007 shows [ 7c, Ad ]
jav1000 collected [ $13,610 ]

LAST HAND

Table #2 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 3: Eehar ( $18,854 )
Seat 5: jav1000 ( $29,762 )
Seat 10: ROYTRUDGEY ( $56,384 )
ROYTRUDGEY posts ante [$250]
Eehar posts ante [$250]
jav1000 posts ante [$250]
Eehar posts small blind [$1,250]
jav1000 posts big blind [$2,500]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to jav1000 [ 5d, 7d ]
ROYTRUDGEY raises [$5,000]
Eehar calls [$3,750]
jav1000 calls [$2,500]
** Dealing flop ** [ 9s, 6c, 8c ]
Eehar checks
jav1000 checks
ROYTRUDGEY bets [$15,750]
Eehar calls [$13,604]
jav1000 raises [$24,512]
ROYTRUDGEY calls [$8,762]
** Dealing turn ** [ Qh ]
** Dealing river ** [ 9c ]
** Summary **
Eehar shows [ Kh, 6h ]
jav1000 shows [ 5d, 7d ]
ROYTRUDGEY shows [ Ts, Jc ]
ROYTRUDGEY collected [ $56,562 ]
ROYTRUDGEY collected [ $21,816 ]

they both seem pretty standard Jav.

Jmack, why aren't you shoving pre with 5bb?

got to say it but I agree with 5bb time to shove is pre flop. My concern here is that as players we tend to focus on a single hand or section of a tournament and how unlucky I got rather than in terms of "Did I play that hand in the most profitable way?" "Were there other hands I could have played differently so I would not be in the position I am now". Always ask did i make the right move and get unlucky.If so well done you did your best. Long term poker is not about winning the hand every time as this will never happen but playing the hand in the most profitable way. If you can do this then you are a winner.

Standard hands there, certainly shove pre to me is better than calling off 1/3 of stack, if the plan is to get all in in the flop then flat calling is fine


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(If you did), you have no right to complain about the A7 hand if you're flat calling, Jmack.

You leave yourself open to exactly that situation. For Jav to check ANY board there is terrible.

Hi Jav,

To tell you the truth, at the time I honestly thought I shoved and you called with air, which is what put me on tilt. Unfortunately once you are knocked out on 888, the software doesn't allow you to view hand histories, and I don't have any of the software that does allow it.

So I do apologise for going off like I did, it wasn't called for, was the end of a very long day, but still no excuse.

From memory, the hand you told me about was me cracking your KK with 45o? I am still curious to see that as if you played the KK properly, I can't believe I was even in the hand with 45o.....

Anyway, no hard feelings from me, good luck at the tables.

So, you mean going to My Profile> Game History> Tournament History, doesn't show hand history anymore??

you can also go to the hand history folder and find it in there, although that is a little cumbersome

Chat box ranting, it should only be used by n00bs and.... Well actually just n00bs. Your better than that jmack! Old mate jav cracked my AA with 55, sh1t happens.