PLO Tip 1: The beginning for beginners.

[AceLosesKing]

Check your hands

If you're dealt 55JT, and the flop falls 55Q, you have quads, not trip 5s, you retard.

Something you want to vent there Aaron?

Just adding a helpful reminder to everyone so they don't make the same mistake I did

I ended up tanking on the river because the board fell 55QJ3, and I thought I had the 3rd nuts (5s full of Jacks).

[AJG]

Why bet? Pot control.
If your on a draw in holdem, do you bet big and hope it hits?
If your on a draw in Omaha, do you bet big and hope it hits?

This is why I asked, because some of the 'under par' (being polite) PLO resources I have found on the net recommend betting your big draws! which seemed a little odd to me, but then, as you mention, bigger swings in PLO it kinda makes some funky sense, as when you hit the nuts, you'll get paid off more, but it still didnt seem quite right.
(but I didnt say 'Bet Big', just asked should you lead out if UTG or chked to, or just chk, with BIG draws)

After a month of playing the game 'seriously' ie, regularly and trying to 'figure out' how to play it better, watching how winning opponents play etc, I am probably only about 10% down (which I think isnt bad considering my first month of Holdem )

I love the game, and wanna learn it better (hence my PM to you Brett) as well I think it will probably help my Holdem in some ways. Another Q I have is, do you recommend (for beginners) Omaha Hi or Hi/Low? or doesnt it make much difference? Do you think Hi/Lo adds more complexity having to consider low hands to, that its best to stick to Hi?

Any good online resources about strategy you know of?

[AJG]

Just read your reply post again, and I wasnt meaning 'bet your draws' to get people OUT of the pot, but maybe 20-30% pot bets, just to build the pot, but keep people IN...

[Brett Kay]

Just read your reply post again, and I wasnt meaning 'bet your draws' to get people OUT of the pot, but maybe 20-30% pot bets, just to build the pot, but keep people IN...

For online resources, Twoplustwo, they have a omaha forum. Check the faqs first, and then start building from there. Truthfully playing the game is the one time that you can learn a lot quicker.

As for beginners, it is easier to transition into PLO Hi than PLO8 (hi/Lo) Purely for the complexity in understanding the draws. Obviously if you jump into HiLo, you start thinking about both sides of the pots. And Hand selection becomes more important, got to think about scooping or 3/4 of a pot, rather than chasing just a lo or just a hi. 3 people to a flop, one betting low one betting high, 3rd person folds (should be looking to extract the bets from him). means you both only get 100 chips for risking around 500. (quick example).

20-30% pot bets to build a pot, means your keeping in people you don't want. I.E gut shot drawers,under and over pairs that can form into sets. etc. These are the hands that take away your outs and reduces your overall value in your big draws. Doing a 50% -75% bet, usually scares the chasers away. Keeps some of the bigger pairs in.

Plus again if your on a big draw someone re-raises your bet. What do you do with two cards to come? Putting yourself at risk on just a gamble to early in a hand.

Omaha helps you understand pot control as well as valuing hands. It does affect your holdem game as you might start to play hands you normally don't like suited connectors, or connectors in limped pots. However the good thing about limping is that omaha does improve your postflop play as well.


Wow, i actually sound pretty knowledgable about omaha. This freaks me out a little. I thought i knew the game but didn't realise i understood it this well. LOL.

[AJG]

Thanks for your help.
I had started reading some of the stuff @ 2+2, but as u know, theres a hell of a lot there!

[Brett Kay]

Yeah, start at the basics then build out from there.

Obviously if you read it all, it is hard to apply all at once. So you learn one part, build from that, read the next part, understand how it ties into part 1, and slowly build from there.

The pyramid effect. . The top part of the pyramid is fortifying the rest of the pyramid. It is up to you to make the pyramid solid.

[666HARPS666]

G'day Brett ,
Maybe a stupid question . But how many cards are in a Omaha deck ?

cheers [_])

[Scotty]

Standard deck used, Harps.

[666HARPS666]

Thank you Sir