Whos Howard Lederer anyway??? ..Steve G. can play !!!

[Bob B]

Bob I have to disagree on the ipod

i myself have my ipod on while playing, i have the volume at a level where i can hear everything that is going on around me and i only ever wear one ear piece.

I'm sure as an individual you do the right thing Matty. My problem is with the ones playing it so bloody loud I can hear the beat and if they are trying to sing or hum along with the music.

But there are time in a poker room where i do want to tune out or not listen to someones theory on the state of the world, so with a little adjustment that can be solved.

But they should never be worn to the point where a player makes countless mistakes or continually questains wats going onThat's what I was refering too.

What's your view on the other products available on the market today?

[Scotty]

I'm still disagreeing with that. As I said, I see countless more instances where someone has to be reminded there's a game of poker going on, because they are too busy talking, than someone with earphones in.

In fact, I don't remember the last time I did have to remind a player wearing earphones to act.

[Matty Norwood]

Bob

what comes down to the effect that any given device can have on the game. I mean a laptop or portable tv would just be silly.

What ,im trying to get across is that it is the person using the device that can be the problem not the device in question.

To stereotype all players who like to have an ipod is wrong. Many players who wear ipods are more alert to the game than other who are not wearing them.

If a player using an ipod is not paying attention and causing delays and frustration remember its the way any thing is used and not the device itself.

I could get angry over all kinds of things at a poker table like the player who takes 20 seconds to cap their cards and then a further 20 seconds to fold, its not the card protector that is causing the player to be slow.

[BigPete33]

I'd much rather have sum1 at the table who is listening to an ipod or similar than clowns like at the final who insist on showing the person next to them their cards just before they fold (then get cranky if you point it out) or who think the yellow chips are worth $2000.

[bennymacca]

valid point matty - its not the ipod's fault that the person isn't paying attention to the game

[Bob B]

I suppose I should agree with you on the "who is using the ipod theory responsibly". But I could name at least 5 people I have had the unfortunate pleasure of sitting with at the same table who don't.

I guess it's like the person driving a vehicle and crashes. In most cases it's not because the vehicle was faulty, it was the person in control of vehicle.

So, how would you explain who is at fault when 2 dunderheads are sharing an ipod and singing along with the tunes and are totally oblivious to what is happening on the table?

One person who I won't name made a habit of sharing their ear pieces and eventually ended up with an ear infection!!!!!!! Gee, I wonder why?

Matty I didn't mention any lap tops as you can get the internet on a mobile phone now.

Re; my quote.

Next thing will be hooking up to the internet on their bloody phones or mini tv's or friggin play station type games to keep them amused.

I was mearly stating that some people, (maybe not you) but some people, wouldn't know how to hold a genuine conversation at the tables. Or, enjoy the game without some sort of prop for their so called "I'm a great player, see I have an ipod, sunglasses and a cap".

So, for those who do wear a cap, sunnies and listen too heavy metal or loud thumping music on their ipods I say this.

You have missed up to 90% of the enjoyment that comes with great table chat. Discussing your day to day happenings or family concerns, or hearing AK's latest bad beat story, LOL.

Or just taking the piss out of someone who just had a bad beat or folded the winning hand after a Bennymacca monumental bluff or just enjoying the game of NPL poker.

We even have a guy who not only uses all of the above but incorperates a hoody top!!! Strangely enough, he is a great player and has won heaps of tourneys way before he took on this new image and he probably will continue to win many more.

The point I want to make here is, he was a great player without the bloody gimmics.

[AceLosesKing]

Its a personal choice Bob. It works for some players and it doesn't for others. Personally, I don't mind players who do either. I think if you wear sunglasses at NPL you're a tool, but.

If a player can't concentrate enough to follow the action on the table, that's good for me.

[muzzington]

I love my iPod.

[rcon]

I love steve_g's ipod.

[muzzington]

steve_g loves your iPod.