A5 wins again!

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A5 wins again!

Postby kentishgirl » Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:19 pm

For those of you who know me, you know that my favourite hand is A5.....and I will tell you exactly why!!

Last night I was playing my usual venue and had some great luck with my favourites. In the first instance, I was under the gun and look down at none other than [as] [5c] .....the next three to act all fold out of turn with only behind the button and dealer to call...I decide to call (Blinds 200/400) and SB calls with a check from BB.

Flop:
[ac] [ad] [jh]

Had to laugh as I thought....yeah I have everyone dominated. So of course I checked it out

Turn:
[6d]
BB bets 1000....SB folds...I think about for a minute, thinking he might have ace or straight draw and call him

River:
[ah]

Hehe....my first ever quad aces with style.....BB bets into me, i re-raise and take all his chips :D

Second incident last night, again UTG with [as] [5s] (Blinds 300/600) but suited this time.....thinking I was lucky on this hand earlier so i will call it again.....everyone folds to dealer, SB calls and BB checks.

Flop:
[ac] [ah] [5d]

Wow the nuts! I decide to check it out until the river

Turn:
[7h]

River:
[9h]

Im last to act and so I bet the min (600).....SB re-raises me to 1500......I think about it and re-raise him to 3000.....he pushes all in and with a smug look turns over [ad] [4d] ......I look at him with a smug look at turn over my boat.....very annoyed he storms off as thats the end of his tourney and I smile with a massive lead onto the final table

Dont ever doubt my A 5 again people!!! :D
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Re: A5 wins again!

Postby AceLosesKing » Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:50 pm

Nice! :D
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Postby rcon » Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:01 pm

AceLosesKing wrote:Nice! :D
Do NOT encourage her, ALK, please ;)
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Postby bennymacca » Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:12 pm

kentishgirl wrote:Had to laugh as I thought....yeah I have everyone dominated. So of course I checked it out


why do you check every time you flop the nuts?

if you checked to me on an AAX board, then re-raised me all in when i bet, it would scream an ace at me, and i would get out of the way so fast it wasn't funny

although you risk folding out hands that are marginal that might take a stab later on, sometimes the best way to disguise your monster is to bet with it
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Postby kentishgirl » Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:25 pm

bennymacca wrote:
kentishgirl wrote:Had to laugh as I thought....yeah I have everyone dominated. So of course I checked it out


why do you check every time you flop the nuts?

if you checked to me on an AAX board, then re-raised me all in when i bet, it would scream an ace at me, and i would get out of the way so fast it wasn't funny

although you risk folding out hands that are marginal that might take a stab later on, sometimes the best way to disguise your monster is to bet with it


I check when I flop the nuts to give the impression that I havnt hit anything.....checking also allows them to hit on the turn and river card, thinking they would be good and allowing them to bet.......I didnt re-raise them all in BTW.....I just re-raised their initial raise and they pushed all in over the top (which is exactly what I wanted them to do)
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Postby bennymacca » Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:37 pm

there are lots of hands that people are calling a bet with, but if you check they will also check

most draws are like this, as well as mid pairs, or top pair weak kicker.

by checking, you dont get value from hands that will still call, but wont beat you

obviously it depends on the type of player, but most NPL players are loose passive, and so are going to check call you down if you bet on every street


if you check raise, most decent players are going to smell a rat, and you will only get a single bet from them, rather than them calling multiple bets


i suppose i am just saying that mixing your game up will help you get more value from hands.
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Re: A5 wins again!

Postby krunchie » Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:38 pm

that type of play will work well against low level players {group c}

its not going to work against anyone thats thinks about their cards at all

imo

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Re: A5 wins again!

Postby Bob B » Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:54 pm

Nice play Kentish girl.

I actually read your post earlier yesterday and was just about to reply when we had visitors at the door. Anyway, after they left I was watching poker on Fox and during the commercials I'd chop back to a recording I made of the Party Pokers #4 European final table.

I have a fairly long story to tell that supports your type of play by one of the greatest players of the game. If you never seen the above game on Fox then I'm sure you'll be very happy with what they had to say.

Some people don't have Foxtel so If you haven't seen it before the game was televised in Party Pokers studios over 4 days (took around 4 weeks tv time). It was a knock out tourney showing the heats, semi's etc, through to where the last 6 players went to the final table with their individual stacks won in the semi finals.

Final table. Ian Frazer $469k, Josh Tyler $351k, Annette Obrestad $235k, Nick Slade $124k, Juha Helppi $114k & Craig Burgess $107.

Jesse Maye and his guest Phil Helmuth were to call the plays. However, I found the pre-game chat was very interesting as to how Phil thought each player would approach the game and why. He commented on the green room as a huge advantage where players were able to watch and see how they and the others played in their respective games.

He saw Frazer as sitting back with his big stack for a while and picking off the low stacks when he hit good cards and making the final heads up.

Tyler was an unknown player but seen him as a typical internet player with a lot of over betting and wouldn't make heads up.

He seen Annette as the most aggressive player of them all and if he was playing against her he'd slow play her. Even if he had a strong hand or weak Ace or even pocket aces preflop he'd slow play her and let her trap herself. He said that's how he won most of his games by slow playing good hands and trapping.

He recalled Nick Slade making an allin early in his semi final got really lucky to take a huge pot and managed to hang on for a finals birth. During the first few hands Nick hit some good preflop and after the flop hands. Phil said if he just checks to Annette and slow plays her he'll trap her and he did and took her chips number of times.

Juha, was getting low on chips and would have to pick his time to go for it and would possiblly pick Annette as he's played her before and knows her moves. Well he did, she had just lost a stack of chips to Nick when he slow played her into bluffing and he went over the top for her to fold.

So Juha must have thought she was on tilt when she initially raised the pot with 99. He reraise her with AK suited and she came back at him with another reraise and Juha went allin. The nines held up and Juha was out in 6th place.

Down to 4 players, Nick, Craig, Annette and Frazer. Nick made a small raise with AK Craig folds, Annette goes ALLIN with J8 Frazer folds insta-call by Nick for a $972k pot. Phil comments on Annette reading Nick as making a weak bet at the pot and trapped her into an ALLIN bet with a poor quality hand. He couldn't understand why she didn't just make a bet of say $120k and see where she stands. Nicks AK holds and Annettes gone.

Next hand Nick goes ALLIN with 9 10 off to keep the pressure on the two small stacks Frazer calls with QK off. The pot is $372k Nick hits a 9 on the flop and it holds up.

Down to heads up Nick Slade has around $1.3million and Craig Burgess had around $96k. Craig went allin the first hand and won. Next hand Nick goes ALLIN with K3 spades and Craig Inst-calls with poket queens. Nick hits a King on the flop and it's all over.

The main part of the story is how Phil says he prefers to slow play and trap agressive players. But added sometimes you need to adjust your game to suit the players and to protect your stack.

NOTE! To the following posts this has little to do with A5 other than how Kentish Girl slow played her hand pre-flop and post flop to get the best results. And a small input by the great Phil Helmuth on how he also likes to play that sort of hand.
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Re: A5 wins again!

Postby AceLosesKing » Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:46 pm

What Bob?
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Re: A5 wins again!

Postby krunchie » Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:08 pm

yep i can absolutley see why that story justifys playing ace 5 ?









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