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Re: How disappointing are the Jellybacks!!

Postby bennymacca » Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:39 pm

Bacon wrote:They are already talking about Symo getting dropped after 2 bad games, but you don't hear it about Hayden


you must have been living under a rock lately bacon, there has been plenty of talk about dropping hayden

i have read more about that than symonds - although watson got a 7 for and smashed 80 odd against SA so he isn't doing his chances any harm
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Re: How disappointing are the Jellybacks!!

Postby Bacon » Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:46 pm

Des wrote:LOL He isn't that far out of form... just wait until Sth Africa, you'll see.


So he can't score runs against NZ, but get him up against the #2 side in the world, and he'll come good :?

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Re: How disappointing are the Jellybacks!!

Postby Des » Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:55 pm

He had 3 innings against NZ. 1 of which was a runout which was Katich's fault.

Ponting failed in both innings in the first test too. Guess he has to go as well.

He is a 100 test player... you dont just drop someone who has given his heart and soul to the baggy green over so many years.

Wait till Sth Africa :)
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Re: How disappointing are the Jellybacks!!

Postby Chelsea4thewin » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:38 pm

Hayden is a hack Des

once a player reaches a certain age they just stop playing at there best and that just is not good enough when there is talent waiting in the wings

mark and steve waugh were better players then Hayden imo and they were forced out pretty quickly when there form started to fall
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Re: How disappointing are the Jellybacks!!

Postby Scotty » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:53 pm

You're getting confused there, Steve.

A "hack" isn't someone who is showing signs of age, and therefore slipping to a lesser output, but someone who was never any good, and didn't deserve to be in the team.

Haydos may be getting on, but he sure as sh*t ain't a hack.

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Re: How disappointing are the Jellybacks!!

Postby Des » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:53 pm

steve_g wrote:Hayden is a hack Des


LOL

10th best average in Australian history!
6th best average in Australian history (minimum 10 tests)
Only Steve Waugh and Ricky Ponting have made more hundreds.
Highest score every by an Australian.

Yeh hack!

He isn't going to be dropped before the Sth African series... so lets see how he does ok.

Bit hard against NZ on a green top against the new ball. Then he gets run out by Katich in his only innings here. So its a bit harsh.
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Re: How disappointing are the Jellybacks!!

Postby Chelsea4thewin » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:55 pm

can someone become a hack? and maybe the wording was wrong but the signs are there

100 is a lot of games but yeah he is getting old, time to step down and get some fresh blood in the team
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Re: How disappointing are the Jellybacks!!

Postby Des » Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:00 pm

Code: Select all

                     Matches Inns  NO   Runs   HS    Ave.    100   50   0
ML Hayden  1994-2008   100   178   14   8508   380   51.87   30   29   14
ME Waugh   1991-2002   128   209   17   8029   153*  41.81   20   47   19


M Waugh better?
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Re: How disappointing are the Jellybacks!!

Postby Chelsea4thewin » Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:04 pm

well there was a few years hayden wasnt a starter in the team and Waugh always was and Hayden played more in the era where Australia dominated everyone and played teams like Bangladesh and other second rate teams

i still think Mark was a better player, in my opinion, great fielder as well
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Re: How disappointing are the Jellybacks!!

Postby Des » Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:12 pm

I'm laughing... Hayden has made a total of 168 against Bangladesh, and 501 again Zimbabwe... guess he's a hack.
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