State Leaderboard

[eddy12325]

Is it just me or is the state leadeboard weighted more towards people who play more poker in a season, which seems unfair, maybe a way this could be made fairer is to have your overall average used to find the winner, not just your best 15 results, so that people that only play 20 times a season have the same chance of winning it as the people that play 70 times a season. That way you have to take the risk of having your average lowered when trying to make it higher, surely this would lead to a more exciting finish to the season on the state leaderboard.

[maccatak11]

Scenario: You play ten games at large venue on one week and make the final table on 7 occasions achieving two wins. Your average stands at 80.5 which you are sure will win you the state leaderboard (now scoreboard). What is the incentive for you to keep playing 888pl for the rest of the season? Doesn't make much business sense from 888pl's point of view.

It has been discussed at length on these forums before (search function is an option remember) but the leaderboards/scoreboards ARE weighted toward high volume players, and at the end of the day, why shouldn't these players be rewarded. A lot of them are 888pl's best 'customers'.

We have all agreed here that perhaps the current system won't find us the best player in a particular season, but definately one of the better players, and definately someone deserving of reward after their continued support to the 888pl.

If you have a specific system that you could put forward to correctly balance and reward players who play lots of venues AND acknowledge outstanding achievers who only play a few times a week, then present it here. I think its agreed that the current system isnt perfect, but its still probably the best way...

[bennymacca]

hi eddy, welcome to the forum

in the very first season of NPL in south australia, the leaderboard as you describe WAS the one used, and the exact scenario happened. someone played 8 games a week, and was crushing it, and got to 20 games (or whatever it was back then), and then just stopped for the rest of the season.

since 888pl is in the business of making money, you can see how incentivising people to play more instead of less is the way to go.

[eddy12325]

Yeah I didn't actually realise this had been discussed at length before I posted the comment, but in Victoria most averages go up over the length of the season which is why I see it being unfair to the people who can't afford to play 4-7 times a week which is why I think their should be a new system, but this is just one persons opinion. It's good to be on the forum though. Went to the semi finals yesterday and found them to be well done by the team, I crashed and burned in the main tournament, but I finished 7th in the cash buy in event so the day wasn't a total loss, the only problem I had with it was the problem they had with registration, was the fact that they hoped they could register which was always gonna be at least 400 players in 1 hour, it was never gonna happen, but apart from that, the day was a lot a fun, the blind levels were probably the best part allowing people to work into the day, couldn't stand the antes though, I don't like the idea of them, and it didn't seem to help as the tournament still went to at least midnight, hope we get the new tables us at the semi finals at venues soon though as they are awesome.

[bennymacca]

antes are a standard part of any large tournament, get used to them and learn to love them!

with respect to the leaderboard though, do you see how it is bad for business for 888pl to have a "total average" system?

[David]

Antes are great.

People seem to think it's something invented to annoy people. Integral part to any NL tournament though.

Problem is people are used to standard tournaments with no antes.

[Caleb]

If the game went to midnight with antes imagine what time it would've finished without them.

[TheShadz]

When will they be introduced at the Grand Final with 20K start stacks and relaxed blind levels?

[Scotty]

When will they be introduced at the Grand Final with 20K start stacks and relaxed blind levels?

Level 4 (150/300/25).

[one chip]

If the game went to midnight with antes imagine what time it would've finished without them

A lot of finals where played long before anties came in, and they finished in around the same time as with them.
In fact all they do is slow down the game and force it to become more a game of luck than ever.
In a big torny you get dry runs of cards.
If you are smart you can get though it, but with anties it can destroy you.