Region of Origin

[gundog]

Gundog, methinks you are wrong. The teams event is not meant to be exclusionary.

Unfortunatly any event that selects a team to represent a region must be exclusionary, just a group banding together to play in a regional event cannot be represent the region.

lets say, for arguments sake that someoneflukes a win (is thre a bit of envy there) in a big, one-off tourney, (it was the venues regular night)lets say its the night before some other big 2 day tourney, which gives him a lot of points

benny the cunt you forget that many others on that regional leaderboard also gained mega points from that night, have you recalculated everyones points not just mine, 7 of the 9 final table players were riverlanders.

My regional position for this year are 10th from 33 games, 14/22 and 2/27; and yours 42/19, 62/17 and 25/20.

So I can understand why you would not like to see it selected from the regional leaderboard.

[bennymacca]

of course you are going to get higher on the leaderboard, you have played a hell of a lot more games than me - which is why the regional leaderboard, doesn't mean crap

[Scotty]

Gundog, methinks you are wrong. The teams event is not meant to be exclusionary.

Unfortunatly any event that selects a team to represent a region must be exclusionary, just a group banding together to play in a regional event cannot be represent the region.

It wouldn't be a case of "one team per region". You would have multiple teams from multiple regions. This is what is meant by this type of event not being exclusionary.

[maccatak11]

Settle pettles.

Selecting the 'best' players from each region to represent it would be an impossible task.

How do we select the best players? Regional leaderboard? Most wins? Most state finals? Highest average?

Most would give you many differences in the top 10 or so players.

So then, do we leave it to our regional directors to pick the team? Well this sounds good in theory, and most TD's would certainly have a good appreciation of what makes a well rounded 'good' player. But TD's don't deal at every venue in a region, and haven't observed every player in a variety of situations. So this wouldn't work either.


Picking the 10 'best' players from a particular region is impossible.

While regional leaderboards are an indication of many of the better players, i do not consider the regional leaderboard system to accurately reflect the best players in that region. Don't get me wrong, its hard to finish high on a regions leaderboard without being a good player, but i think its more a combination of getting good results, AND playing a LOT of games that gets people in these positions.


The only way that a region themed teams event could happen in a fair and equitable way is if players nominate their own teams, but they represent their region. This often occurs in many country carnival style sporting events (the tennis one is one i have participated in).

So guys please don't turn this thread into how to pick the best players from each region, because it would never happen that way. And while a teams event might be an extra way to reward people that finish highly in their regions leaderboard, an event like this would happen once or twice a year at most, so that makes it even harder to choose players when there are 5 regional leaderboards in a year.


Gundog, although we all know many players from this region and personally i would be happy playing on a team with most people in the region (and im sure you would too), there would be many players who simply would choose not to participate if they did not get a chance to play on a team with their mates.


In an ideal world, 'the best of the best' would work well, but in poker it is simply too hard to make this work. Leave the state finals for the serious stuff, a teams event would be about fun - not serious regional competition.


Lont post i know, but wanted to diffuse the situation.

[Scotty]

Long post i know, but wanted to diffuse the situation.

LOL

[AceLosesKing]

the first thing that i would say, is that the regional leaderboard definitely DOES NOT represent the best players in the region, not by a very long shot.

[bennymacca]

i didn't say that people that finish high arent good players, but it is not a necessity. you sir, are a good player

[BigPete33]

Big Pete me tinks you are wrong !

The only way the event can go ahead is if the format truly represents the better players in each region, simply someone selecting a team or a regional area manager selecting a team is unacceptable.

Its pretty much accepted that we should have a teams event.

Now is the time for sugestions about the format and how a winner is decided.

NPL needs to decide if this go's ahead, the number of players in each team and a venue.

wtf?

Where did I even mention anything about ANY kind of format for it?

What makes you think the format is even for us to decide? We're certainly not the ones who have to organise the logistics.

I will agree with you that it does seem that players would be keen for this style of event. This is awesome and I am happy.

I'm sure someone like Nathan will ask us for our ideas on some pre-thought of formats when it's closer to the time to do so (won't you Nathan?).


Have some faith/patience mate


P.S. If regional leaderboards are to be taken as any indication of worth then I will immediately be boycotting.

[Nevah play JJ]

P.S. If regional leaderboards are to be taken as any indication of worth then I will immediately be boycotting.

Mind if I ask why not?
Surely this is the best indication of good and consistent players?

[BigPete33]

For the very reasons Scott (and I think benny the cunt) mentioned.

It will absolutely not work at all.