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1k Guarantee, early stages

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:00 pm
by muzzington
Don't use a hud, but villiain is solid and hadn't gotten out of line. I realised after how bad my bet sizing looks, but I felt comfortable I had the best hand until the river which threw me since something like 6 8, Q8 or another combo was possible. Villain also tanked raise the river.

Cassava Poker $15 + $1.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds - 9 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

UTG: t3763 M = 25.09
UTG+1: t3500 M = 23.33
UTG+2: t2730 M = 18.20
Hero (MP1): t10228 M = 68.19
MP2: t5914 M = 39.43
CO: t3295 M = 21.97
BTN: t3232 M = 21.55
SB: t10634 M = 70.89
BB: t3000 M = 20

Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is MP1 with AImage AImage
3 folds, Hero raises to t350, 3 folds, SB calls t300, 1 fold

Flop: (t800) 5Image 7Image QImage (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t500, SB calls t500

Turn: (t1800) 8Image (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t1000, SB calls t1000

River: (t3800) 8Image (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t1500, SB raises to t5100, Hero??

Re: 1k Guarantee, early stages

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:16 pm
by bennymacca
really tough spot muzz.

because of your river bet sizing, a bluff raise is possible. your bet screams of a hand that just wants to get to showdown.

the board is very dry. no draws got there, and the 8 on the turn and river is pretty much irrelevant, except for 78. Q8 is possible but i dont think its there that often. of course he could have quads but thats obviously unlikely.


do you think he could be turning something like 99-JJ or KQ into a bluff?


i dont really see what has us beat, the turn and river change very little. if he had a set on the flop, its a weird line as well.

i think i am calling here most of the time. his line doesn't really make sense except for a marginal hand that villain is turning into a bluff.


im prolly way off the mark here, but thats the way i see it.

Re: 1k Guarantee, early stages

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:27 pm
by muzzington
I didn't think it made much sense either, but that would also make it a decent bluffing spot if he thought I was capable of a laydown of a Q or something like that. We were also the two chip leaders at the time, so it was a big hand for that stage.

Re: 1k Guarantee, early stages

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:01 pm
by Caleb
Double fist pump snap call.

Then double fist pump punch a hole in the wall when he rolls 84o.

Re: 1k Guarantee, early stages

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:04 am
by gmatical
I think we only really fear flopped sets.

A8, Q8, 78 possible but not likely holdings for calling raises OOP for a solid player.

Could be KK, AQ, KQ.

I call here 100% of the time.

Re: 1k Guarantee, early stages

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:13 am
by muzzington
I ended up calling and he showed [5s] [6s] of spades so missed a lot of draws on the turn but made the river call a little tougher.

I'm not sure if raising the amount he did or shoving is more effective in trying to get a fold.

Re: 1k Guarantee, early stages

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:58 pm
by gmatical
What a 'tard.

I hope you made a note on him -

check/calls his monster draws - bluffs off heaps when he misses.

Re: 1k Guarantee, early stages

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:14 pm
by AceLosesKing
I actually like his line, although the board texture doesn't really make a lot of sense for it (his line).

Re: 1k Guarantee, early stages

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:30 pm
by muzzington
If I were in his shoes, I'd definitely call the flop with all the backdoor possibilities.

I think the fact it wasn't a very bluffable board had me slightly confused, thinking he might have backed into trips. I think benny the cunt's right in that my small river bet leaves him room to try something.

I don't think he's on a very high level though so he might have just been stubborn and decided to try something because he missed (which he basically admitted).

Re: 1k Guarantee, early stages

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:32 pm
by bennymacca
i think a half to 2/3 pot bet on the river is better.

or if you are worried about getting raised a lot, then check call is probably ok as well, although a bit passive