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How would you play this?

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:45 am
by Torak
Background info, not too much as early on in tourny. Villain has seen all bar 2 flops. and other caller had just continued call to river with q2 on board q,10,9 rainbow,4,3

Im UTG this hand

***** Hand History for Game 8606798460 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny: 48475523 Level: 2 Blinds(30/60) - Friday, November 13, 11:33:20 EST 2009
Table Aussie Millions® 25 Point Qualifier (1789753) Table #18 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 5: Steven8471 ( 6,480 )
Seat 4: ap0k4Lip512 ( 1,820 )
Seat 3: villain1( 3,560 )
Seat 9: davidm511 ( 2,940 )
Seat 6: Villain2 ( 5,800 )
Seat 7: lizzard11120 ( 2,600 )
Seat 8: monymaker344 ( 2,640 )
Seat 10: msspan ( 6,460 )
Seat 1: rinatgsr ( 2,940 )
Seat 2: smkit4 ( 2,940 )
Trny: 48475523 Level: 2
Blinds(30/60)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to lizzard11120 [ Tc Ts ]
lizzard11120 calls [60]
monymaker344 folds
davidm511 folds
msspan calls [60]
rinatgsr folds
smkit4 folds
carl29uk calls [60]
ap0k4Lip512 calls [60]
Steven8471 calls [30]
firaida checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8h, Th, 5s ]
Steven8471 bets [60]
firaida calls [60]
lizzard11120 raises [280]
msspan folds
carl29uk calls [280]
ap0k4Lip512 folds
Steven8471 folds
firaida calls [220]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]
firaida checks
lizzard11120 bets [760]
carl29uk calls [760]
firaida folds
** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]
lizzard11120 is all-In [1,500]
carl29uk calls [1,500]

Spoiler:
lizzard11120 shows [ Tc, Ts ]three of a kind, Tens.
carl29uk shows [ 7d, 9c ]a straight, Six to Ten.
carl29uk wins 5,780 chips from the main pot with a straight, Six to Ten.
Player lizzard11120 finished in 196.

Re: How would you play this?

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:07 am
by AceLosesKing
Apart from not raising preflop (which is debatable at a 10 handed table) I think you played the hand perfectly. You knew that villian would call down with a wide range, so you charged him/her full price for it.

Sometimes there is just no amount of money/chips that will make a villian fold a draw. Don't think you could've played the hand any "better" that makes him fold on any street. Some players just never do - they'll call all in with a gutshot on the flop, or a flush draw on the turn.

nh.

Re: How would you play this?

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:49 am
by bennymacca
AceLosesKing wrote:Apart from not raising preflop (which is debatable at a 10 handed table) I think you played the hand perfectly. You knew that villian would call down with a wide range, so you charged him/her full price for it.

Sometimes there is just no amount of money/chips that will make a villian fold a draw. Don't think you could've played the hand any "better" that makes him fold on any street. Some players just never do - they'll call all in with a gutshot on the flop, or a flush draw on the turn.

nh.


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its debatable whether you should raise pre with TT. personally, i normally would, but i am used to playing 6max, not 10 handed. so in general i think its ok to limp here.

post flop, you played it fine

Re: How would you play this?

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:15 pm
by maccatak11
Agree with the above. Your bet sizing was fine imo. And if your only going to play TT at a full table for set value (i.e. not raising pre), then you did this perfectly too. Just unlucky man.

Re: How would you play this?

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:30 pm
by Matty Norwood
personally with 10 10 utg im definately raising pre if nothing more to at least minimise the hand ranges which will more than like call, limping from early gives no info. But hey i open raise too much or so i have been told.

while reading through how the hand played out i instantly though villian was holding either the heart draw or a j9.

Re: How would you play this?

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:17 pm
by AceLosesKing
Omg strat from Matty Norwood!

Mods, save that post, this is going down in the record books.

Re: How would you play this?

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:21 pm
by trishan
Norwood makes like a million strat posts on the 2+2 forums and nothing on here. It's about bloody time.

Re: How would you play this?

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:18 pm
by bennymacca
matty, are you norwoodmatty1010 on 2+2?

im not sure if that is indeed you.

Re: How would you play this?

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:16 pm
by trishan
It's him lol.

Re: How would you play this?

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:23 pm
by bennymacca
trishan wrote:It's him lol.


have you asked him?