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AJ on a Jack High Board - What shall thou do?

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:48 pm
by trishan
I have been struggling in the 11pm games and so I am currently going back over hand histories. One hand caught my eye as an interesting one from early last week.

I don't have any reads on the villiain on this hand as he was just moved to the table. Have played with him in the past but I have not added any notes to his file.

UTG Villian (12,785)
UTG +2 Tournament Chip Leader (36,123)
SB Player 1 (11,024)
BB Hero (27,242)

Blinds: 300/600

Dealt to Hero: ImageImage

Villain calls 600, 1 fold, Chip Leader calls 600, 4 folds, Player 1 calls 300, Hero checks

Pot: 2400

Flop: Image Image Image

Player 1 checks, Hero checks, Villain bets 1200, Chip Leader folds, Player 1 folds, Hero calls.

Pot: 4800

Turn: Image

Hero bets 4800, Villain raises 4800 to 9600, Hero???

The reason I didn't raise preflop is because OOP AJ is very hard to play. I think a call on the flop isn't that bad (3-1 pot odds).

Re: AJ on a Jack High Board - What shall thou do?

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:04 pm
by Scotty
Blinds are 300/600, not 600/1200 I assume.

What were your thoughts on villain's c-bet?

Re: AJ on a Jack High Board - What shall thou do?

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:06 pm
by AceLosesKing
Fold flop.

As played, c/c turn > leading IMO.

Re: AJ on a Jack High Board - What shall thou do?

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:08 pm
by Scotty
Agree with Aaron there - as played, check calling the jack looks a better option than opening.

Re: AJ on a Jack High Board - What shall thou do?

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:18 pm
by bennymacca
agreed, c/c is a better option. float on the flop is ok, i think the turn is where u messed up. floating is used to pick off the standard cbet with air. so after floating, all of a sudden leading on the turn is not great as it folds out those bluffs that might try again if you check to them.

as played, i think you have to fold. you still have plenty of chips, no need to stack off here with only top pair after your opponent has shown aggression. i doubt that the villain is going to check behind on the river if you call and check it to him, so its going to cost you at least half your stack to find out if you are good. all options suck after your lead, but i think folding is the least sucky as it will leave you with chips.

Re: AJ on a Jack High Board - What shall thou do?

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:26 pm
by trishan
Scott wrote:Blinds are 300/600, not 600/1200 I assume.

What were your thoughts on villain's c-bet?


Yes - The blinds were 300/600.

Villians c-bet seemed to me to be a pocket pair that did not flop a set hence the 1/2 pot bet to potentially end the hand here. Given he has 21BBs - K 10, Q 10 and J 10 are all in his range, especially in these 888pl games.

Re: AJ on a Jack High Board - What shall thou do?

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:31 pm
by trishan
Ok - so check/call the turn. Would have been much easier if I were in position. What do you guys have him on? (I will post his hand at a later time)

Re: AJ on a Jack High Board - What shall thou do?

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:46 pm
by Scotty
Do you think he would make the same play with KQ?

Edit: this is aimed at the others, as Trishan obv knows whether he would or not :P

Re: AJ on a Jack High Board - What shall thou do?

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:48 pm
by bennymacca
trishan wrote:Ok - so check/call the turn. Would have been much easier if I were in position. What do you guys have him on? (I will post his hand at a later time)


lol he could have anything here really

Re: AJ on a Jack High Board - What shall thou do?

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:56 pm
by Scotty
You're in front of any OESDs, his 10x range barring 10 J, and underpairs that haven't hit.

My feel is for J 10 or K Q, with little to no information. But benny the cunt's right - his range may as well be the deck :P