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Trips on a fairly dry(ish) board
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:29 pm
by AceLosesKing
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) -
Poker-Stars Converter Tool from
FlopTurnRiver.comHero (BB) ($19.25)
UTG ($9.85)
MP ($13.95)
CO ($10)
Button ($9.10)
SB ($18.95)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q

, 10
3 folds,
Button bets $0.40, SB calls $0.35, Hero calls $0.30
Flop: ($1.20) 4

, Q

, 8
(3 players)SB checks,
Hero bets $0.95,
1 fold,
SB raises to $2, Hero calls $1.05
Turn: ($5.20) 9
(2 players)SB bets $2.40, Hero calls $2.40
River: ($10) Q
(2 players)SB bets $5.20, Hero ???
Villian: Was opening a lot of pots (this being 6max). We had tangled a few times, each time I 3b and took it down OOP postflop, or took small pots IP. He had not stacking off easily. I do not have PT completely installed yet so no stats. Been at the table about an hour and he seemed pretty competent. Anyone else playing any streets differently?
Re: Trips on a fairly dry(ish) board
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:40 pm
by bennymacca
to me it looks like an underset here.
he check raised flop, which could mean just about anything, including sets and semibluff straight draws, but then on the turn and river he continued his aggression into you after you let him know that you weren't going away.
lets see
hands you beat
AA
KK
AK triple barrel (unlikely i think)
hands you lose to
44
88
AQ/KQ
10J (semibluff that got there)
i think you can find a fold there. with the exception of the aces and kings, that Q doesn't change too much. most of the time, if you were already behind, you still are now.
Re: Trips on a fairly dry(ish) board
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:22 pm
by trishan
Interesting flop action. His 3-bet is probably where I would fold the hand if it were 9/10 handed with a check-raise.
What hands do you have beat here? Middle and bottom pair and a Q with a smaller kicker or possibly a bluff.
Lots of hands have you beat QJ/QK/QA (pretty likely), Q 8/4 for two pair (somewhat likely), AA KK 88 44 (possible).
Given the call on the flop - you pretty much have to fold on the turn.
The river is interesting - what of the previous range do you beat with a river Q? AA KK but any QJ/QK/QA has you beats as does Q 8/4 and any flopped set.
He is not gonna triple barrell or raise with anything that you have beat so fold.
Re: Trips on a fairly dry(ish) board
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:24 pm
by AceLosesKing
bennymacca wrote:to me it looks like an underset here.
he check raised flop, which could mean just about anything, including sets and semibluff straight draws, but then on the turn and river he continued his aggression into you after you let him know that you weren't going away.
lets see
hands you beat
AA
KK
AK triple barrel (unlikely i think)
hands you lose to
44
88
AQ/KQ
10J (semibluff that got there)
i think you can find a fold there. with the exception of the aces and kings, that Q doesn't change too much. most of the time, if you were already behind, you still are now.
Pfft, no one plays AA/KK this way. We also lose to Q9 and Q8.
Re: Trips on a fairly dry(ish) board
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:26 pm
by maccatak11
at 5c/10c, he probably has A 8.

Re: Trips on a fairly dry(ish) board
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:27 pm
by trishan
bennymacca wrote:hands you lose to
44
88
AQ/KQ
10J (semibluff that got there)
I ruled out 10 J as I don't think you would raise 4xBB pre with 10 J even 6-handed and I don't think you would check-raise with it on the flop as a bluff.
Re: Trips on a fairly dry(ish) board
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:29 pm
by muzzington
SB called the button's raise.
Re: Trips on a fairly dry(ish) board
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:32 pm
by trishan
muzzington wrote:SB called the button's raise.
Right my bad. So given he did not re-raise - we can probably rule out AA KK and maybe AQ.
Re: Trips on a fairly dry(ish) board
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:54 pm
by bennymacca
trishan wrote:Right my bad. So given he did not re-raise - we can probably rule out AA KK and maybe AQ.
i think i misread it too
ok, so that probably does rule out AA and KK. but adds Q9, Q8, which both beat us as well
i can't really see a hand that triple barrels that we beat (except a bluff of course)