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played well or played badly....either way i'm tilting!
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 1:20 am
by James
Playing a home cash game, currently sit on $30.
3 players left, and get delt 10-3 off on big blind, blind are 10c/20c. UTG raises to 60c so i flat call. Board comes out A-10-3. UTG bets and I push over the top and UTG calls and shows an ace. Turns an ace, so drawing dead. Ship him about half my chips.
Very next hand, delt aces on the small blind. UTG/dealer calls so i raise. BB folds and I put some hollywood on and act on tilt. UTG/dealer RE-raises and I push over the top. UTG calls and rolls pocket jacks. Got me covered, and wouldn't you know it, flops a jacks. Board bricks out for me and I ship all my money to him.
From decent chip leader to busto in two hands. Bad play or just bad beat......or both?
Re: played well or played badly....either way i'm tilting!
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 1:28 am
by BigPete33
I'm not sure I'd be calling a raise from UTG with T 3.......
Re: played well or played badly....either way i'm tilting!
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 1:32 am
by James
BigPete33 wrote:I'm not sure I'd be calling a raise from UTG with T 3.......
granted.....but on my big blind and i was chipped up.......
Re: played well or played badly....either way i'm tilting!
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 1:35 am
by AceLosesKing
I'm gonna read this properly later, but I'll say this now:
MONSTER!!!!!
Re: played well or played badly....either way i'm tilting!
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 1:38 am
by Garth Kay
Without info on your opponents;
Fold pre.
As played:
Flop - $1.30 pot? Opponenet bets what? And you re raise all in to $29?
re raise 4 to 5 x the bet, no need to shove for almost 150 BB.
What is ur read on ur opponent? Does he have an A, when he hits top pair is he ever likely to fold?
Is he passive or agg?
Re raise 4x. If he flats give you ability to get away from hand on turn. Without concentrating so hard on the results, I would say you played it ok, got it in with the best, but might have just overplayed a weak two pair.
AA vs. JJ? Bad luck, it happens. If we won every time we got our money in good, we would all be rich and have nothing to btch about.
Re: played well or played badly....either way i'm tilting!
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 3:48 am
by AceLosesKing
Folding monster is the worst play anyone can make, ever. I'm glad you shipped it in and you were very unlucky to be drawn out on. You should strive to play T3 at any opportunity. D*nkeys and their Ace rag, pfft.
Bad luck sir.
Re: played well or played badly....either way i'm tilting!
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 10:23 am
by James
Garth Kay wrote:Without info on your opponents;
Fold pre.
As played:
Flop - $1.30 pot? Opponenet bets what? And you re raise all in to $29?
re raise 4 to 5 x the bet, no need to shove for almost 150 BB.
What is ur read on ur opponent? Does he have an A, when he hits top pair is he ever likely to fold?
Is he passive or agg?
Re raise 4x. If he flats give you ability to get away from hand on turn. Without concentrating so hard on the results, I would say you played it ok, got it in with the best, but might have just overplayed a weak two pair.
AA vs. JJ? Bad luck, it happens. If we won every time we got our money in good, we would all be rich and have nothing to btch about.
opponent......Andrew Moroney, who i class as aggressive. tried to crack aces with 2-7 earlier in the night, and almost won. I'd been playing super tight all night.
He could have been raising with a drawing hand, even with a raise preflop. I wanted to see the end of the hand then and there, and was hoping my playing style would have helped them put me ahead with either a strong ace or hit twice.
Re: played well or played badly....either way i'm tilting!
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 10:35 am
by Garth Kay
Effective stack sizes?
Re: played well or played badly....either way i'm tilting!
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 10:38 am
by James
about double his
Re: played well or played badly....either way i'm tilting!
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 10:52 am
by Garth Kay
So effective stacks then are about $15 or 75BB's.
Still such a shove on the flop here of almost 70BB's into a pot worth 8 BB's? Overselling your hand and that shove, to me, reeks of fear and says you don't want a caller.
I would check raise the flop, to 5x his bet. If a re raise is faced I smooth call as now I would be concerned about a top two, strong ace or mid or bottom set(possibly top, but people tend to slow play top set).
When that Ace falls on the turn I check fold or bet fold as my and is now not beating much. UTG range is A+ JJ+ and all these ranges are drilling my hand.
In a tournament I don't fault this play at all, but in a cash game you play to alleviate the impact variance can have on you.