You're a Bunch of Factors

(My final states hand).

You have 20k even. Blinds 7k/14k/1k ante. 8 handed table.

You look down at 89o UTG.

Shoving it in? Why/why not?

no... just coz

don't push wih 10-2 u might run into AA i am so stupid some times

AceLosesKing wrote:(My final states hand).

You have 20k even. Blinds 7k/14k/1k ante. 8 handed table.

You look down at 89o UTG.

Shoving it in? Why/why not?

I would, for no other reason than I like my 9's and I prefer to choose the hand that destroys me rather than leaving it to luck to decide on my BB. That's just me though.

I can think of worse hands to push with though....

For example:

Luke05(Jamo) wrote:don't push wih 10-2 u might run into AA i am so stupid some times

Jesus mate, all this after I talk you up about how well you played in the first flight...

Just how many times did you snap-call with Ace high on the flop to suck out on later streets?

That's worse than you knocking me out in the teams event at the Cas K10 v K9! At least you called that pre-flop!

if i am gonna do some thinking i don't think about it i just do it. i need to learn how to play heads up every ones gotta get lucky some time.

8 9o u can do better than that if u hit what have u got mid pair may b a straight y i've even seen a fullhouse hit.
Stuff pot value and thats only if you do manage 2 hit.
Any 2 cards can wìn 4 me UTG fold 89o without a blink. More fun going in blind than hoping 2 hit loser hands.

bruceklm wrote:8 9o u can do better than that if u hit what have u got mid pair may b a straight y i've even seen a fullhouse hit.
Stuff pot value and thats only if you do manage 2 hit.
Any 2 cards can wìn 4 me UTG fold 89o without a blink. More fun going in blind than hoping 2 hit loser hands.[

bruce, answer these questions for me, one by one

1.what are the odds of 89 off winning against another person holding AK off??? in this case you go in with 6BB worth

2.what are the odds of you winning when you hold AA, but because you folded down and only have 2BB, there are 5 callers when you go all in?

3.how much do you win in each case?

4.what is your expected value in each case?

5.what are the chances you get aces compared to any two other cards?

6. what are the differences in fold equity between the first and second cases.

MY ANSWERS IN BLUE [computer revamp].
bruce, answer these questions for me, one by one

.,,,LOVE TO. Nb answering on my mobile phone.,

1.what are the odds of 89 off winning against another person holding AK off??? in this case you go in with 6BB worth,

ABOUT THE SAME.,NO CALCULATOR.,60./4o to hit
40/60 To win

2.what are the odds of you winning when you hold AA, but because you folded down and only have 2BB, there are 5 callers when you go all in?
32.8%
3.how much do you win in each case?

6bbx1000x5callers=30000.win 40% of the time=40%30000is=12000chips
the 8 rivers win nothing.
case2=2000x5=10000/
the 8 rivers AA holds I win 10000yah loose Bruce!



4.what is your expected value in each case?

20%/20%

5.what are the chances you get aces compared to any two other cards?
8in104

6. what are the differences in fold equity between the first and second cases.

tell me?.(same?)..

BennyJAM Vs the Bruce fold...monies in my pocket

UR still living in hope the
River card may hit = to me =Chip and Chair vs a Prayer..?


My stats vs yours
pic your own critirea anyseason u like/another heads up m8?/OPSA if your game!!!

nb I've noted a folding target like me seems to attrack the any two cards / lets bluff bruce he will fold --- type of player .. these type of jammers are easy meat when you have winning cards..

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What?

try repeating what you just wrote bruce, but next time make it legible