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What do you put him on?

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:26 am
by Caleb
I had a random day off on Tuesday so I went to the Cas and played the $45 freeze-out. 2000 starting stack, 15 min blinds, 25/50 start blind.

Third hand of the tourny, I have 1900 left from behind the button, no raisers, look down at [Kc 3c]. I limped with my suited K. Blinds check.

Flop: [3d 3s 9s]

Blinds check, UTG bets 100, next calls, folds around to me.

Weary of the flush draw, I raise to 400. SB folds, but BB raises to 800. All others fold, comes back to me.

So what are we thinking here? Here's my rational:

Spoiler:
No raise from the blinds, so any 2 cards possible.
Don't think he has the 3, as I wouldn't have raised in that position with trips. (Unless of course I thought the initial raiser was on a flush draw, but I thought I had made it pretty clear I wasn't so anyway....

Thinking maybe the 9 with a good kicker, low pockets, or as a very outside chance, the last 3. Even if he does have the 3, my kicker should be gold regardless.

He wouldn't have re-raised with a made full so I threw that out the window.


So what would you do? Fold, call or push?

Spoiler:
I pushed. He called and had 50 remaining.
He then rolled over [ad] [3h].

As Jack Bauer would say: DAMMIT!


Bananas on the turn and river. First one out, on the third hand of the night. Pitiful. The regular comments flew my way, "What do you expect, he's an NPL dealer... etc. etc.

I was so angry I went and destroyed a $1/$2 No-Limit table for several hours afterwards.

The End :(

Re: What do you put him on?

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:30 am
by Lincoln Fletcher
Your mum?

Re: What do you put him on?

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:35 am
by Caleb
I just knew when I saw your naming lurking around that you would have some smart-arse comment as the first reply Linc.

That said, I probably should have specified before: This topic is reserved for those of us who can ACTUALLY PLAY POKER AT AN ACCEPTABLE LEVEL.

That is all.

Re: What do you put him on?

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 8:06 am
by Garth Kay
Was it A,3 or 9,3?

If I hit any resistance that early in a tournament then I gotta think I'm beat. 9,9 is out of the equation, but not entirely, and some players will re raise with a flopped book.

Not many players are trying to bluff that early in a $45 tourney.
But then again 7,3 or 2,3 is as much a possibility as anything else.

I don't shove here though. If it remains at heads up, I control the pot and call rather than re raise, especially if I am worried about being beat. If he shoves on the turn, then he has a three and is concerned about drawing out, value bets on the turn generally means drawing or is super strong, check on the turn; could be a trap for a very strong hand or has decided to see if he can get a free card.

General thoughts behind the betting patterns there, but no idea of what type of player he is.

Re: What do you put him on?

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:49 pm
by AceLosesKing
I figured a lower 3.

Bad luck. Caleb, was that you that I met at the Pt Adel poker game the other week? Le Grand Kitchens... about 50 guys, maybe 3 that knew how to play poker.

I was the kid with the "got tilt?" shirt on, blonde hair.

Re: What do you put him on?

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:11 pm
by Des
AceLosesKing wrote:I figured a lower 3.

Bad luck. Caleb, was that you that I met at the Pt Adel poker game the other week? Le Grand Kitchens... about 50 guys, maybe 3 that knew how to play poker.

I was the kid with the "got tilt?" shirt on, blonde hair.


LOL i was meant to go to that event! Had better things to do though ;)

Re: What do you put him on?

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:17 pm
by AceLosesKing
Des wrote:
AceLosesKing wrote:I figured a lower 3.

Bad luck. Caleb, was that you that I met at the Pt Adel poker game the other week? Le Grand Kitchens... about 50 guys, maybe 3 that knew how to play poker.

I was the kid with the "got tilt?" shirt on, blonde hair.


LOL i was meant to go to that event! Had better things to do though ;)


You missed nothing. $100 buyin - which paid for food/beer/entertainment. I don't do beer, so it was an average night for me ;)

Prizes were signed sports memorabilia. 1st prize was a huge Pt Adelaide Power signed frame, of their GF win. Valued at around $1500 I think - would've gone for more on eBay ;)

Play was abysmal. I noticed a few guys taking chunks of chips from the bucket during the break - don't think any of them actually used em, just trying to be funny. Searching through the muck, showing the table their cards, taking bets back... I won 5 hands early on by betting on the flop, then checking the turn, only to see my opp muck.

I got knocked out maybe 15th or so, JJ into A8, flop Axx.

Conclusion: it was ghey.

Re: What do you put him on?

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:27 pm
by Caleb
Meant to be an Ace, the picture is not working properly.

Aaron: Yeah, that was me mate.

That night was.... interesting, to say the least. The poker was very much a side attraction for 99% of the players and there is only so much you can do when people are more interested in the naked girlies and free beer than playing a game that at least half of them had never played before.

I wish I'd known you were there, would've been good to actually have a chat.

Re: What do you put him on?

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:34 pm
by Caleb
Garth Kay wrote:General thoughts behind the betting patterns there, but no idea of what type of player he is.


That's what i think I misread here. I played him for about an hour on the cash table afterwards and found he had no skill at all. I took 4 buy-ins from him in about 18 hands. He just got lucky on that previous hand and seemed to only ever raise when he was way in front.

Case in point: He checked down a a flopped high-end staight because a flush draw was a possibility on later streets :? (Still can't get my head around that one, considering the way he played the previous hand)

I just wish that particular hand had come up later in the tournament, might have had a better read on the situation.

But knowing the way I play, probably not. ;)