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Do you call here?

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:39 pm
by AceLosesKing
You're in a NL Holdem tournament. 437 runners, cash from 45. There are 12 runners left. Blinds are 2500/5000 and you have 34k. You are sitting in the BB on a 6 handed table. UTG open shoves for 28k, it folds around to you, you look down at [As] [7c].

Call?

Spoiler:
I was UTG, shoved with [ts] [td]. He rivered an A.

Re: Do you call here?

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:52 pm
by bennymacca
if it was against aaron, then i am calling. against anyone else, then im folding

:D

Re: Do you call here?

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:22 am
by Brett Kay
Need more info. Avg Stack size on table. Obviously 6 handed, Any big loose stacks out there.

Are you in mid position of field, or short stack. Are you big stack against big stack.

What about player type. Loose, Tight, Hasn't played a hand for two orbits except blinds? Antes?

Off hand, i would be folding, A 7 not a good hand to be risking all your stack against someone who is going to cripple you. Would rather find a better spot.

Re: Do you call here?

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:26 am
by Brett Kay
Read spoiler.

Its the call you wanted. take a note, he loves aces.

You could have played the hand differently. 15k on flop. Get two callers, push all in on flop or all in on turn after checking flop.

Get your money in real well.

Re: Do you call here?

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:38 am
by Origami
opps..............edit error

Re: Do you call here?

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:50 am
by Origami
bruceklm wrote:try this--reverse positions and see if you would have done what he did ??

me would have seen the flop playing either . hand, I dont consider either hand an all in prospect ---especially 10, 10 UTG. [ 6 handed .]. why after reading spoiler 28k out of your 34k what did he have all up

me if ace hits he bets/ fold why risk what you have already consolidated.

in your position in the tourny you played well to get 12/437 might depend how much the monies jump on final table....

like Brett said...depends relative chip stack size if short stack sure play hard if youve got a feel or read on the other guy use it...
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Re: Do you call here?

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:34 am
by BigPete33
I'd be more angry at not flopping a set, 10's always flop a set :P

Re: Do you call here?

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:29 am
by Bacon
BigPete33 wrote:I'd be more angry at not flopping a set, 10's always flop a set :P


On the river against Kings, for sure! :lol:

Re: Do you call here?

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:41 am
by bennymacca
i was railing aaron at the time

both of the stacks were short - the biggest stacks had 200K plus.

in addition, aaron got lucky a few hands before pushing with 78 against 89 and hitting a 7 to stay in.

as the other guy was short, he was probably thinking that it was about as good as it was going to get

i would have folded, but i can see why he made the call - even though it was loose

aaron, you were pushing with any pocket pair, and prolly any 2 cards higher than a 10 - KQ, KJ, QJ etc were also in your range, and short stacked, his ace could well have been good.

bruce, aaron jammed for 28K, and the other dude had 34K - it clearly says this in aaron's post.

and bruce, 1010 is DEFINITELY a pushing hand when you have less than 6 big blinds worth of chips

Re: Do you call here?

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:20 pm
by Chelsea4thewin
i think he just wanted to go home, he was tired