Someone please tell me this is completely standard.

[Chelsea4thewin]

what about A,K,K,K junk

[Des]

what about A,K,K,K junk

Because quad kings would win it for AK.

[Bacon]

and that would then become standard.

ARLGK only wins when way behind, wasn't that the inferance?

[AceLosesKing]

Wow, heaaaaaaaaaps of replies. Didn't know this topic would stir this much interest.

Yeah, flatting definitely isn't happening. We have position yes, but its way to sucky to put 32k in with 100k behind. We'd have to fold to the AA shove, anyway. Its either a fold preflop/shove situation.

Part of me wanted to fold because I didn't want to bust out first hand, when I was sitting 4th - and I am drawing to win. So I can see what rcon is trying to say. But then, if I double, I'll have a good crack at 1st (which is what I want). And with AK, I am at worst, flipping. Which I was prepared to do against crzy (expected her to fold anyway).

So I think shoving is the EV+ move. Its just unlucky that I happened to run into AA. The limpers are folding, unless they have something huge, and if crzy lets it go I pick up a nice pot.

[Chelsea4thewin]

and that would then become standard.

ARLGK only wins when way behind, wasn't that the inferance?

thats what i was referring to

forgot to put the ARLGK remark, thanks bacon

[AceLosesKing]

Do you honestly think folding AK here is the right play considering previous action?

Two limpers and one Short stack shove pretty much means you have the best of it.

You raise to isolate, you lose a race you lose 1/4 of your stack. With the blinds and antes in play it is the right move.

Just to be clear, that wasn't a SS shove. crzy_ann had 157k at the start of the hand, and went to 32k. If she called and I lost, I was out.

[Scotty]

I was waiting for someone to pick up on that

[AceLosesKing]

Does that change your plan at all Garth?

[Scotty]

I doubt it will.

My line, btw was similar to what Mat what alluding to.

And I've always thought the phrase "Isolating the big stack" to be slightly redundant.

[AceLosesKing]

I doubt it will.

My line, btw was similar to what Mat what alluding to.

And I've always thought the phrase "Isolating the big stack" to be slightly redundant.

Yeah, I doubt so too.

Are you folding here, then?