Can I get some thoughts on this hand please?

[JMACK007]

I'll happily declare eventually what we both had, this hand just really puzzled me.

You had pocket 3s

Lol, is that the reason for this....?

Hands I ruled out instantly were KK and QQ and 33.

[JMACK007]

I agree with you Pete, this is a weird hand. It is tough to put him on anything given lack of history, unless you have Nathan's "soul read"!! The only thing you have control of is the way you played it with the cards you have. I prob raise that flop in position. I used to play a flopped set passively, but have been sucked out on too many times to continue to do so. I find it better to put the pressure back on the original agressor, especially when you are gonna put your stack out there anyway....

[BigPete33]

I can see AK or AQ here.

Didn't even think of AA, silly me.

The min raise isn't out of line here, pretty non-consequential IMO for this player. If he was going to raise it would be min is how I looked at it. No1 else was really doing much different on the table.

But, I can't fathom how smashing the pot with a draw is a good idea - might need more insight on that one. Betting, yes for sure, but smashing it? Maybe he hoped I'd whiffed that flop?

I narrowed this guy right down to KQ and not wanting ME to chase a potential draw. It's entirely possible I called that raise with KQ myself, or any pair or possibly AK/AQ/AJ/AT or KJ/KT or QJ or maaaybeeee QT and definitely T9 plus some other hands. I'd not been seen to be playing ridiculous hands so he'd have to have given me some credit on the assumption he was paying attention.

So when villain smashes the pot I was thinking "he either doesn't want to get paid or he just really thinks he will".

So I did the right thing and paid him, having put him on KQ and deciding he'd put me on Kx or Qx and that I was going to pay, or he was just an idiot. I deliberately didn't raise the flop because it was a rainbow and I was sure betting the pot on a draw would be non-sensical. I pretty much wanted him to bet like he'd never bet before and I was calling all the way.

I doubt he had any idea I had a set. If he did and still bets the pot on a rainbow flop, well - that won't work very often so good luck to him.


So yeah, the phucker has JT and got lucky on the turn. And by lucky I mean betting badly and it paying off and 888 somehow not being rigged enough to give me a paired board (that's for you cookie monster).

[wabbit999]

lol nice tweet, pete

Personally i'm thinking pre-flop he could have any number of hands without any information min raise usually it suggest strength (well i'll do a min raise late in a game with AA KK but not early since your more likely to get more callers I would even Cbet but not pot sized if i hit a set with KK there). Often I reckon min raises from weaker players, are low pockets and suited connectors.

I think Nathan is right calling it as J10 the pot bet on the flop, he either wants to take it down now or is looking for major value if he think's he'll get callers if he has a hand like AA QQ (can rule out KK now I think) and hoping that you had like AK or something like that. The half pot on turn shows either strength or weakness. I agree with Tristan here, you should have raised here if you thought you were in front, your flat call on flop and turn doesnt show much strength, You don't gain much information unless you raise at some point, if you raise the flop you might be able to get away from shove (but i doubt it) but re-raising the turn would be hard since you would be forced to call off any shove because of the stack sizes.

the shove on the river suggests that he's either got a mid pair or the str8. your are so way infront or behind.. if i set mine on a drawing board i'd prefer to get my chips in while i'm in front. Slow playing it gets ya into trouble and I can't complain if I get it in while i think i'm infront.

What was the players name I might have some stats on him.

[BigPete33]

Thanks wabbit.

I thought about the ol' min raise on the flop, that would basically declare my hand as 2 pair at worst though and as I said I was pretty sure I was in front and getting paid.

I'm wondering if any attention was paid to what I might have called him with, it's seeming like not a lot was - but that's to be expected I suppose.

I actually stopped looking at the cards after the flop and just clicked call as quick as I could on turn + river, convinced myself it was KQ and stuck with it - obv wrong this time but you get that.

[BigPete33]

Player name was BAXTER16708

Now I look at his name again he'd gotten lucky a couple times in another tourney earlier on. Must be a card rack

[bennymacca]

I actually stopped looking at the cards after the flop and just clicked call as quick as I could on turn + river, convinced myself it was KQ and stuck with it - obv wrong this time but you get that.

this is your main mistake in the hand i think. if you put someone on KQ right here, they are obviously never folding ever, so i would just be raising and looking to get it in.

the A is a horrible scare card for KQ and i think that he would probably slow down.

But, I can't fathom how smashing the pot with a draw is a good idea - might need more insight on that one. Betting, yes for sure, but smashing it? Maybe he hoped I'd whiffed that flop?

bad players bet more to try and get you to fold, especially when they are only min raising preflop

[bennymacca]

Player name was BAXTER16708

Now I look at his name again he'd gotten lucky a couple times in another tourney earlier on. Must be a card rack

i only have 36 hands on him, but he looks fishy from what i can tell. in fact you can tell that from the bet sizing.

[BigPete33]

I'm pretty convinced he's a fish NOW

[Nathan Butler]

Nathan, you put this player on JT on the flop? How/why?

Soul Read.

Soul-read. That is all.