$10 Deepstack, QQ UTG, facing huge raise from the blinds.

[gmatical]

Is he/she really betting this amount with AA KK AK?

Seems like a mistake in betting that you should be taking advantage of in the biggest way possible - ALL IN!

If you lose think of it as $10 infromation and make the appropriate notes on villan for next time you meet (if this was a designed raise and not a mistake - they will no doubt make a habit of it).

It just seems too bizarre.

Getting busted out of the tourney for information when you are 300bb deep? Seems like a huge waste of a buyin

I doubt we bust out.

[bennymacca]

pokerstove a range for me

[rcon]

whats he got? TT+/AQ+ (at a stretch) - easy fold 3rd hand.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

503,417,376 games 0.273 secs 1,844,019,692 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 55.038% 53.78% 01.26% 270740232 6329616.00 { QQ }
Hand 1: 44.962% 43.70% 01.26% 220017912 6329616.00 { TT+, AQs+, AQo+ }


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[bennymacca]

i want gmatical to do one

i agree with you rcon, you can never ever shove here.

[gmatical]

ext results appended to pokerstove.txt

2,097,572,400 games 1.856 secs 1,130,157,543 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 79.925% 79.63% 00.29% 1670338644 6149538.00 { QcQh }
Hand 1: 20.075% 19.78% 00.29% 414934680 6149538.00 { random }

Here is a range, perhaps the only range that we can use. I feel personally ranging against a top XX% of hands may not be right here - Do we really associate this bet with super strength?

I get that folding is fine - but how do you seriously range such a bizarre bet??

Against Any pair, any broadway and any suited QQ is 75/25 so if we narrow the range a bit more it is still a good situation.

It's a weird one IMO - but sometimes weird plays are a mistake rather than an thought through bet.

[bennymacca]

random hand?!?!?!?!?

as a 3bet that is many many times the size of the original bet?

dont think so.

your range any pair, any broadway and any suited is also way off.

something like any pair and any broadway might be appropriate, but to include 23 or 92 suited is just ridiculous.

[bennymacca]

It's a weird one IMO - but sometimes weird plays are a mistake rather than an thought through bet.

this is very true, but in this case, you really have no idea without any reads. so when you are guessing, it is pretty much always better to fold.

[Caleb]

something like any pair and any broadway might be appropriate, but to include 23 or 92 suited is just ridiculous.

I am so overbetting a 3 bet against a McDonald next opportunity with this hand.

[bennymacca]

lol

why are the mcdonalds defined as stupid internet kids?

is it because you know there are 3 of us now?

[maccatak11]

I almost posted the results straight after benny the cunt's first reply, but ill let it go a little longer - mostly good points so far.

but how do you seriously range such a bizarre bet??

Although gmatical's range of 'any two' is just silly, this is the question i am getting at.

In a live environment you can pretty much tell straight away whether this overbet was a mistake or super strong, but readless and online, assigning a range to this player is really hard.