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Re: Come on hand discussioners!

Postby Brett Kay » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:03 am

I pushed with 2bb and ran into aces. Out in 27th.
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Re: Come on hand discussioners!

Postby muzzington » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:25 am

Brett Kay wrote:I pushed with 2bb and ran into aces. Out in 27th.


That could have been a result of a mistake someone made earlier or it could have been Bruce playing Kings.
We've how about links I would like to know I walk the line scrunches line at how the client Lawrence etc. etc.

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Re: Come on hand discussioners!

Postby Brett Kay » Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:16 pm

muzzington wrote:
Brett Kay wrote:I pushed with 2bb and ran into aces. Out in 27th.


That could have been a result of a mistake someone made earlier or it could have been Bruce playing Kings.


Predicting my bust out hand. :-)
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Re: Come on hand discussioners!

Postby gmatical » Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:52 am

I was too delirious to write down my bust out hand (i think it was AIPF my Q10 vs Kx) K high good? or maybe he/she paired the K?

I did write down 2 interesting earlier hands on my 'last longer bet list' but have promptly lost the bit of paper.

Oh well.

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Re: Come on hand discussioners!

Postby bennymacca » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:08 am

i was on monkey tilt most of the time, so i didn't play anywhere near my best.

i got berated for getting my 20bb stack in the middle with AK though, which i lol'd pretty hard about.
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Re: Come on hand discussioners!

Postby madali » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:21 am

Ok I have a couple of hands I would like to discuss do not know how to make them come up in the right format. So here are the details let sorry and let me know what you think.
My stack 27k, cutoff 85k and big blind 19k

Blinds 150/300
Early position dealt ace diamonds 10 of clubs
call. Cut off calls and big blind checks

Flop Queen of spades, 10 of hearts, 6 of hearts.
I bet 900, cut off calls and big calls.

turn 10 of spades.
I bet 3300, cut off calls, big blind folds.

River 3 of spades
I check and cut off pushes all in.

What do I do?
Spoiler:
I fold. I have watched this hand over and over and cannot believe I folded. All I can say is at the time my instincts told me he had a full book. It was just after I had gone out of the high rollers so dont know if that was affecting my judgment. With my instincts telling me though that I was beat that he had the full book I did not want to call and be out when I could fold and still have enough chips to build with. My instincts now tell me he had a draw he missed such as straight or flush or maybe a 10 with a weaker kicker


Opinions please.

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Re: Come on hand discussioners!

Postby bennymacca » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:25 am

probably my best hand of the night was in the $16.50 tournament against wabbit

i had about 100k in chips, wabbit had about 50k. i think the blinds were about 1k/2k but can't remember exactly. it was around that mark.

he was directly on my left, and was bb to my sb.

it was folded to me with [as] [3d], i open to 2.2x, and wabbit snap jams on me. about as quick as you could possibly do it.


now here comes the bit of history


wabbit doesn't know this i dont think, but he was playing the grand final event the other day, and he was bragging to a player about how he outplayed me and got me to fold in a game online, when i typed KK? in the chat box but wabbit was telling people he had T7o. he was telling people that i was over aggressive. which compared to the general 888 population is probably true, but in terms of normal poker players, its far from the truth. anyway, i digress.

(if my story is slightly wrong wabbit correct me, it was third hand information and i am paraphrasing)

turns out my little bro was on the table at the time. note to wabbit, i have eyes and ears everywhere! :D

so wabbit thinks i am over aggressive, which is untrue, but i could tell he was trying to outplay me every chance he got, he was on a couple of my tables at this time. if he made it slightly less obvious that he was doing this it would have been great play, but i could see it a mile off.


so anyway, i end up making the call with A3o, and wabbit rolls K7o.

i was really happy with my read, and it was prolly bad luck for him that i knew about what he thinks about my play but he didn't know that i knew.


needless to say, this man wheels :P like god, and he hit his king. but meh thats poker. :D :D

well done on your results wabbit, you had a good weekend.

for what its worth, he also knocked me out of the heads up when i was unfortunate enough to get moved to his table when he had a 6:1 chip lead, and he won the AJ <88 flip, and im pretty sure he knocked me out of the high rollers as well, or at least took a good bunch of my chips. except for that hand above, he pretty much owned my soul, but just about anyone would with the tilty crap that i was playing on the weekend.

oh well, good times. back on the horse for the state finals and grand final coming up soon.
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Re: Come on hand discussioners!

Postby bennymacca » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:34 am

madali wrote:Opinions please.


firstly, dont ever ever ever limp from early position with [ad] [tc]. it means you are playing the rest of the hand out of position, with a hand that is pretty much always dominated when someone else raises. even if they limp, you are now playing multiway and its hard to know where you stand in the hand at all. if you are not comfortable raising this hand utg, then fold. at a full ring table, it is completely ok to fold this hand, and it is what i would do most of the time, especially against loose passive opponents who are not going to re-raise you with AQ or AK.


now, on the flop, you lead out for full pot. this isn't too bad since the board is kinda drawy, but a bet of 700 will probably do the same thing.

turn is fine.

on the river, why do you check here?

villain basically never has a flush here. since the Q is a Q of spades, villain can't have hands like KQ or AQ suited that would call 2 streets and then backdoor the flush.

so the only realistic hand that might get there with the flush is KJ or maybe J9 of spades.

similarly, the only other realistic hands that beat you are QT and 66, which are both unlikely.

i think this is a worse ten a vast majority of the time.

i snap call here.


do you have any reads on your opponent gayle?
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Re: Come on hand discussioners!

Postby gmatical » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:38 am

madali wrote:Ok I have a couple of hands I would like to discuss do not know how to make them come up in the right format. So here are the details let sorry and let me know what you think.
My stack 27k, cutoff 85k and big blind 19k

Blinds 150/300
Early position dealt ace diamonds 10 of clubs
call. Cut off calls and big blind checks

Flop Queen of spades, 10 of hearts, 6 of hearts.
I bet 900, cut off calls and big calls.

turn 10 of spades.
I bet 3300, cut off calls, big blind folds.

River 3 of spades
I check and cut off pushes all in.

What do I do?
Spoiler:
I fold. I have watched this hand over and over and cannot believe I folded. All I can say is at the time my instincts told me he had a full book. It was just after I had gone out of the high rollers so dont know if that was affecting my judgment. With my instincts telling me though that I was beat that he had the full book I did not want to call and be out when I could fold and still have enough chips to build with. My instincts now tell me he had a draw he missed such as straight or flush or maybe a 10 with a weaker kicker


Opinions please.


I think it a fold. Or more importantly you cant call without having the flush beat.

Possibly throw out a value bet on the river that makes sense but won't kill your stack (3,500 - 4,000) - if he comes over the top you are beat, if not you may see the showdown without putting all your chips in.

I would't lose sleep over this - i think you played it fine.
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Re: Come on hand discussioners!

Postby bennymacca » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:43 am

gmatical wrote:I would't lose sleep over this - i think you played it fine.


postflop is not too bad (although i call because of the reasons mentioned above), but limping UTG is basically never a good idea at a full ring table, especially at a passive one where noone is likely to raise you without having you crushed.
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