HS Rolls (and why would u do this in a game?)
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:22 pm
Maybe you have seen this before, esp if you watch the series each year:
Why on earth would you do what Laliberte does in this video??
You have to be nuts!
Reignites a debate i was having amongst some other players, as to whether the High Stakes Poker TV series is really played for so much, or perhaps the amounts on the table are actually multipled by some factor to make for better TV?
Even though Brunson makes the comment about how much money is involved, Im not sure Im convinced its all real...
I get that online is a little different (even guys like Antonius and Ivey, Durrrr and Isildur1 play multiple tables), but I saw a vid where Antonius says to play those stakes, you really need a BR of $300M+ (and comments he thinks ppl usually underestimate how many buyins you need, well thats his implication). Amazing comment he makes in same vid, that going back to $300/$600 was relaxing for him! wow! Also he beleive its possible to go on a $100M downswing...
So what kind of BR do you need to be playing $1M+ pots live?
Even at $200K buyin, most BR management would require you have $20M+...
Seriously do THAT many players have this kind of roll?? Given even the most successful players have tournament earnings only 1/2 that (or less - Ivey's on top @ $12.6M)...
Sure the Iveys, Antonius' and Durrrs et al, but there seems alot of different players in all these High Stakes and Million $ Cash game series etc, can they all have such huge rolls? (and there are quite a few different HS series from Europe and the UK not only the US)
Also consider these guys would have rather large expenses, and this $20M+ minimum is just pure poker roll... Not like their net worth or anything...
So say they are worth even $30M (which would be generous for alot of them imho), do they really put 1/2 or more of their net worth into a poker BR?? Or sit down at these tables as if they had such a roll?
Or is it just that they play these games/series less often, so are prepared to buyin more for a higher % of their BR? (say usually play a $50K buyin or something)
But rarely do they look out of their comfort zone, so either there are alot more players out there worth alot more than I thought, or (atleast some of) these HS poker series kinda 'fiddle' with the stakes....
Why on earth would you do what Laliberte does in this video??
You have to be nuts!
Reignites a debate i was having amongst some other players, as to whether the High Stakes Poker TV series is really played for so much, or perhaps the amounts on the table are actually multipled by some factor to make for better TV?
Even though Brunson makes the comment about how much money is involved, Im not sure Im convinced its all real...
I get that online is a little different (even guys like Antonius and Ivey, Durrrr and Isildur1 play multiple tables), but I saw a vid where Antonius says to play those stakes, you really need a BR of $300M+ (and comments he thinks ppl usually underestimate how many buyins you need, well thats his implication). Amazing comment he makes in same vid, that going back to $300/$600 was relaxing for him! wow! Also he beleive its possible to go on a $100M downswing...
So what kind of BR do you need to be playing $1M+ pots live?
Even at $200K buyin, most BR management would require you have $20M+...
Seriously do THAT many players have this kind of roll?? Given even the most successful players have tournament earnings only 1/2 that (or less - Ivey's on top @ $12.6M)...
Sure the Iveys, Antonius' and Durrrs et al, but there seems alot of different players in all these High Stakes and Million $ Cash game series etc, can they all have such huge rolls? (and there are quite a few different HS series from Europe and the UK not only the US)
Also consider these guys would have rather large expenses, and this $20M+ minimum is just pure poker roll... Not like their net worth or anything...
So say they are worth even $30M (which would be generous for alot of them imho), do they really put 1/2 or more of their net worth into a poker BR?? Or sit down at these tables as if they had such a roll?
Or is it just that they play these games/series less often, so are prepared to buyin more for a higher % of their BR? (say usually play a $50K buyin or something)
But rarely do they look out of their comfort zone, so either there are alot more players out there worth alot more than I thought, or (atleast some of) these HS poker series kinda 'fiddle' with the stakes....