You're a Bunch of Factors

Was just reading a few blogs with my 'morning just got to work coffee' and I found this one from Joe Tall (DeucesCracked) interesting.

If this were you, how would you have played this hand?


Here is one tough spot that crippled me a bit. I have around 45,000 to start, blinds are 100/200.

BIG stack who is playing tough raises in early position to 600, some weak player calls, and I call in late position with A5.

Three to the flop (pot 2100): A K 8

Pretty damn good flop for me, but the preflop raiser has a big stack and is out of position vs two callers. He bets 1100, which is just over 1/2 the pot, the middle player folds and I elect to call. Since he did raise in early position, and bet into two of us, it’s quite a strong line. I figured it is best to see the turn cheap and then decide how to continue.

Turn brings (pot 4300): K , obviously a terrible card. Now the villain fires off 3200 in stride, I think for a bit. Against a lot of tight straight forward players I can consider folding this turn. There is reasonable suspicion that he could still be barreling on a bluff, he was too aggro with his big stack to give him full credit here, so I called.

River (pot 10700): 6

There it is, the nut flush for me and now my opponent checks. Here is where I make a mistake. It’s tough for a limit player to access value on the river. There is certainly value here, he may pay off with AQ, AJ and certainly KQ, KJ are in his range as well. The question is just how much to bet?

I fire off 8000, which is too much in retrospect. I was feeling confident and brass and I should have thought it out a bit more. I was going for big value which is a mistake this early in the tournament. A great tournament player suggest I bet 5800 or so and try to get bet paid early in tournaments is better than no value or worse….

I got check-raised All-in.

So there I was, holding the nut-flush on the river and my tournament life on the line.

I folded.

that would suck so much, but its an obvious fold.

open pre from early position, fire 2 barrels, then check-shove the river when the obvious draw gets there (dont have suits so i assume there were 2 of the same suit on the flop and it wasn't runner runner)

it is quite reasonable for the villain to put the hero on a suited ace given the action and a check-shove is the perfect way to get value from it when the draw hits.

Wait so he had the nut flush and had to decide whether to call an all in on the river but folded cos the board is paired?

trishan wrote:Wait so he had the nut flush and had to decide whether to call an all in on the river but folded cos the board is paired?

That fold is a no brainer.

I find middle part of the hand interesting. I am not sure about the call on the flop......

pundies wrote:

trishan wrote:Wait so he had the nut flush and had to decide whether to call an all in on the river but folded cos the board is paired?

That fold is a no brainer.

I find middle part of the hand interesting. I am not sure about the call on the flop......

He had [as] [5s] on a [ac] [ks] [8s] flop.

muzzington wrote:

pundies wrote:

trishan wrote:Wait so he had the nut flush and had to decide whether to call an all in on the river but folded cos the board is paired?

That fold is a no brainer.

I find middle part of the hand interesting. I am not sure about the call on the flop......

He had [as] [5s] on a [ac] [ks] [8s] flop.

Personally in that situation, I like to shut pots down. And stop things ending up the way they did. I like a re-raise in this situation. It will help me find out where I am and if he calls & my flush does not hit, I will save myself money when that K comes on the turn as I would possibly fold. But all this would depend on my read in a live situation.

I am sure nobody will agree with me. Which doesn't bother me at all. I like how I play, it has been good for me.

Joe's more of a limit player though.

a re-raise just inflates the pot even more.

i like his line except the river. i agree with the comment he makes that around 6k is enough

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muzzington wrote:Joe's more of a limit player though.

I know.

I am not much of a poker info reader (never read a poker book etc.). But I know I need to read & discuss more to improve my game, so Blogs are the way to go for me. I really like how Joe writes, I follow it well and it's like I am there .

Sometimes I read poker info and get very very lost! lol.

bennymacca wrote:a re-raise just inflates the pot even more.

Maybe. But like I said I may be happy to shut this pot down. We don't know what the villan has, so a re-raise may induce a fold. Which I would be happy with in this situation.