Equity

[bennymacca]

this article actually applies to me a while ago - as you all know, i used to whinge about every time i got sucked out on. this is a very good article

Hello microballers,

A friendly Public Service Announcement for you all.

In poker we deal with EV, which simply translated means "betting our money when we are a mathematical favourite, and not betting when we aren't". We all know that when you are a 60/40 favourite, you should come out with the mad monies when the river is all said and done. Right?

WRONGGGGGG!

This may seem simple to most of you, but when we are talking equity edges in poker, they are very, VERY slim. What I mean by that is that one of the best edges you can have in poker (all in with AA versus AK preflop) is still only a 10:1 shot to hold up. That kind of edge is only offered to us VERY rarely in typical play. What we usually deal with are edges like holding a set versus a flush draw (a 3:1 edge) having our opponent draw to 3 outs (70:30). Edges of 60-65% are still very good and are more common.

What you need to realise is that when you hold an equity edge of 70%, you are a favourite, BUT if you were to play the situation 100 times, you are guaranteed to lose 30 times. If you talk about a 2:1 edge (a big edge in NLHE), if you run it 100 times, you are supposed to lose 33 times in addition to winning your 66 times.

My point is, if you get it all in with 70% equity and lose, then immediately think "I was a favourite. I was supposed to win that pot", you are seriously deluding yourself and you need to properly understand what it is to have an equity edge. An equity edge is NOT a golden stamp saying "Sup dude! Ship the monies!". It just doesn't work like that. A 60% edge means you win 60 times out of 100, and lose40 times out of 100. Thats right...40 times out of 100 you are mathematically destined to lose. We are all very happy when our edges hold up, but when we lose, how often do we say "oh well, 70% isn't a lock. You gotta lose those ones sometimes".

NEVER! We say "[censored] HELL 70% EQUITY WTF HOW DID I LOSE THAT WITH SUCH A HUGE [censored] EDGE JESUS I RUN SO BAD BLAERHGJHWKJEGHWEJKH" - right? Yes I'm right. Look how many stamps there are in the cheese thread.

SO.

Consider this new rule.


"The only time you can be truly justified in complaining about losing with an equity edge is if you had your opponent drawing dead on the turn and the dealer dealt a 6th card to give you opponent the best hand, and no-one said anything and the floor ruled that the 6th card was legal and there was nothing you could do about it"

or, more realistically,

"You cant complain about losing with an equity edge in one specific hand, you can only complain about losing with an equity edge when mathematical variance has evened out. Given that nobody knows how long "long term" actually means, you can't really ever complain about losing with an equity edge".


Hopefully now you have a better understanding of what it means to be a "favourite" in an all in confrontation. Sometimes you don't just lose, sometimes you HAVE to lose.

Get it?

LESS WHINING, MORE POKER

[AceLosesKing]

Why, you've become such a 2+2 whore recently benny the cunt. Great little site, isn't it?

[Scotty]

LOL @ little

[bennymacca]

these two threads have changed the way i play, even in the last 2 weeks i reckon

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/97/tw ... ks-105691/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/69/micro-stakes-pl-nl/unl-archives-memorable-strategy-threads-430489/

[Origami]

A Q vs 9s 3s .........



60/40 Im head on the pre flop gee wiz.

Q hits still ahead...!!!

spade x on the river bye bye Brucie... Spades flushed another 'bubble" achieved...

so you now know why I fold benny the cunt . 1 in 10 of AA AK

winning was it ???

Embrace the Variance as someone once said....

play 100 games win / place in 51 and your ahead mate. 51/49.

me luv Statistics......you = Math is Idiodic.

[muzzington]

English is idiotic.

[maccatak11]

Bruce is idiotic.

[bennymacca]

bruce, you stoop to new levels of idiocy and incomprehensibility every time you post

A Q vs 9s 3s .........

AQ > 99 hey. interesting maths you have there bruce

[Des]

bruce, you stoop to new levels of idiocy and incomprehensibility every time you post

A Q vs 9s 3s .........

AQ > 99 hey. interesting maths you have there bruce

Uhh 93, not 99

9 spades, 3 spades...

idiotic freudian slip

mmm beer

[Origami]

bruce, you stoop to new levels of idiocy and incomprehensibility every time you post

A Q vs 9s 3s .........

AQ > 99 hey. interesting maths you have there bruce

Uhh 93, not 99

9 spades, 3 spades...

idiotic freudian slip

mmm beer

thanks ....Homer 'des'.

as Homer says beer is good...