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Would you fold KK?

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:54 pm
by AceLosesKing
Let me go into detail. This is all online, by the way.

There is a preflop raise (player A), to 400. I call, as does another player (player B).

Flop: J J, x. Player A thinks for a bit and checks. I check. Player C bets - Player A and myself call.

Turn: J. I now have a house, and the only way I can be beaten is if someone has AA or the one J. Player A checks. I'm suspicious he has the J. I bet, player C raises, Player A calls that and so do I.

River: x. Player A pauses for a second and bets 1000. I know he has the J. I type into the chat window: "Ross, I'm putting you on the J."

And I call.

Player C calls.

I show my house. Player C shows QQ. And yep, you guessed it, Player A shows the remaining J.

Why couldn't I fold?

Re: Would you fold KK?

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:02 pm
by rcon
AceLosesKing wrote:Why couldn't I fold?



Don't you love it. Your head tells you there is no way you've got this hand, but your pumping adrenalin is reminding you of how good it feels when you've read it correctly, that someone doesn't have the cards they were representing.

I'd have trouble folding it too. But being able to fold good hands, at the right time is what makes good players good I guess.

Re: Would you fold KK?

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:28 pm
by Bacon
Pot committed :lol:

Re: Would you fold KK?

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:33 pm
by David
Reading that ...

I wouldn't flat call with KK.
Raise to 400 from Player A, I'd reraise all in - depending on stacks etc.

If he has AA, so be it. If he has AJ, at least you're giving him the choice of folding to a massive re-raise. If he's any good, he would probably fold that.

Re: Would you fold KK?

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:35 pm
by mr_niceguy_1979
David wrote:
If he has AA, so be it. If he has AJ, at least you're giving him the choice of folding to a massive re-raise. If he's any good, he would probably fold that.


Why would he fold trip jacks with highest kicker?

Re: Would you fold KK?

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:36 pm
by AceLosesKing
David wrote:Reading that ...

I wouldn't flat call with KK.
Raise to 400 from Player A, I'd reraise all in - depending on stacks etc.

If he has AA, so be it. If he has AJ, at least you're giving him the choice of folding to a massive re-raise. If he's any good, he would probably fold that.


This is online poker. Play money.

Nobody folds AJ/AQ/etc after a raise.

Re: Would you fold KK?

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:38 pm
by David
Ahhhh.

Play Money.

Re: Would you fold KK?

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:40 pm
by Scotty
mr_niceguy_1979 wrote:
David wrote:
If he has AA, so be it. If he has AJ, at least you're giving him the choice of folding to a massive re-raise. If he's any good, he would probably fold that.


Why would be fold trip jacks with highest kicker?



I think Dave is referring to the pre-flop action, Brice.

Re: Would you fold KK?

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:41 pm
by bennymacca
gotta remember this:

1: Online - no respects raises (so AJ might have called anyway)
2. Online - harder to make a good read
3. Online - everyone is carp (i am assuming that this wasn't very high stakes)

edit: just read the bit about play money

quit whingeing AK and start posting when u have some real poker to talk about :P

Re: Would you fold KK?

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:42 pm
by bennymacca
actually, except for the reading part, play money online is exactly the same as NPL!